About the Serious Trolls: FBI

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:19 pm

I was looking for a place to report a fraud e-mail (part of the ebay/paypal scam that continues to thrive fore WHATEVER reason) and I remembered this link

When we get serious attacks like one recent attack, we really should take this to an authority. I was going to post this in the "banned members" thread but it was locked, so here we go...

Of course, for anyone who wasn't sure about legal issues for things like digisubs, roms, and those HK discs, you may not want to take a chance if the FBI were to investigate that troll who's name I won't mention for his actions... If it gets looked into, they will be looking at this site all over. I don't think they are going to look into all of us, but I'm just warning you. I think it's better to go without that anime or that game than to hold onto it without being sure if it's ok...

I think that with situations like that troll, we really do need to take Legal action... We can't risk that happening all the time...

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:34 pm

I totally agree. -^.^- Boco_T and other such trolls that post such material as he did and/or who organize mass troll attacks should face some consequences. :mutter:

However some people (hehe, you know who I'm talking about, the member who used to have the counterpart to my avatar in his banner ~.^) would need to change their signatures at once if the FBI came around here.

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:42 pm

MillyFan wrote:However some people (hehe, you know who I'm talking about, the member who used to have the counterpart to my avatar in his banner ~.^) would need to change their signatures at once if the FBI came around here.

What? Since when is Artemis a counterpart to Milly? You must be one of those people who believes in the canada/bear myth... Modern Radar doesn't lie!

I can prove it with this equation: 2c/124b^3=1/q and q=0

So you see, there is neither a bear nor a canada, because q is infinite!

ohsorrythisisntgoofoff

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:45 pm

LOL

The user I'm referring to used to have a Wolfwood banner. Should the FBI come here, it would probably be a wise idea for him to delete these two posts of mine and do a little signature editing for a certain link ~.^

Postby **Lochaber Axe** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:50 pm

Well if you are talking about me, I have listed the writers names and as such should really not have to worry. They would have to be really bored to go after me since:

1. I say again, I have given credit to the writers.

2. I have the CD.

3. I do not download anything off the internet, need to conserve memory.

4. Does not take narcotics, does not deal in drugs or smuggling rings, has not killed anybody, has not posted anything indecent anywhere, has not stolen, have respected copyright laws, et cetera.

Are you talking about me in any case? :eyebrow:

I am not paranoid just interested.

[Edit: never mind... well you now know that I am a law abiding person, of course I would never have an inkling on how you would think otherwise. :grin:

]

Postby **Azier the Swordsman** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:50 pm

Seems a bit extreme to me...
I wouldn't have to change my sig would I?

Concerning fansunbs ect. It's impossible to competely delete ANY file on your computer without specialty software.

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:53 pm

I'm not talking to either of you :lol:

Don't worry. Your sig doesn't link to a certain site. As long as your sig does not lead to *cough arr mateys cough cough* you are fine. -^.^-

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:54 pm

TO CHRIS: yeah, but you don't need a complete erase to make it legal and get you out of hot water, only needs to be off your system and all backups. It's not the same as if your computer is evidence in a murder trial, they're not going to search your HD to see if you've DLed digisubs in the past... Even saying "I did at one point, but i delted them all" won't get you in any trouble... They don't bother with digging stuff like that up, it's just they want it to stop and only sue or bring criminal charges when it hasn't stopped. And I can almost guarantee you they don't care about your sig...

Postby **Azier the Swordsman** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:10 pm

OK. Just curious, are we refering to Boco T or another recent troll I haven't heard about?

Postby **Ashley** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:20 pm

You know, it doesn't matter WHO you're talking about. Point taken. But I highly doubt we'll get the FBI in here.

Postby **Stephen** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:29 pm

For Petes sake Milly...just say Shatterheart. I do read the posts around here ya know....Gee...who on earth could she be talking about

As far as FBI. There is nothing in American law that makes Animeniacs illegal....there is nothing that can prove it either way. Is it right? *shrug* If there was somthing the FBI could do about Animeniacs they would be shut down...trust me, there are people who hate them a lot more then you Milly, and they have tried. Anyway...I was going to change my sig a while back...but like everything in life...when people annoy me...or try to tell me what to do...it only makes me feel stronger and want to be a dingus even more.

We allow people like you to post anti-animeniacs links, so why the fuss if I post one in my sig? Also...just a note...next time you have a complaint about me...this goes for everyone....rather then make silly posts and play "you know who" games...PM me. Anyway, the FBI can't do squat against trolls like CAA is dealing with. Most of which are perfectly safe within the laws. Read up on what gets people kicked off ISPs and basicly you will get what I mean.

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:32 pm

all right

But how did you KNOW? ~.^

Postby **Stephen** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:37 pm

The banana sold you out...during his hyponotizing dance...he told me of your betrayal...*waits for Ash to get really really weirded out and fire me*

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:39 pm

:lol::lol::lol:

Postby **inkjet1987** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:40 pm

I have never bought anything from Anemaniacs so I don't know but whats wrong with it?

Postby **Ashley** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:40 pm

Um....right. I was always suspicious of that banana.

Postby **Stephen** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:42 pm

Check Millys link about not stealing Ink, some people consider it a bootleg site of sorts.

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:42 pm

To inkjet: Yo ho ho and a few DVDs, my friend. Arr, mateys, it's time to head over to burn some more profits. . .~.^

Postby **inkjet1987** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:44 pm

Oh ok.

All clear.

Postby **inkjet1987** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:46 pm

Whats wrong with burning things and selling them, I do it all the t....wait I didnt say that, don't listen to me...I'm talking nonsense...hehe...oh boy.. :brow:

its a joke, I'm not serious don't :banned:

me!!

Postby **Straylight** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:47 pm

I highly doubt the FBI would bother to be honest.. think about it from the FBI's pespective - it's somebody posting something that offended someone else on the internet. Would require quite a bit of time and effort to trace, better spent fighting more important crimes (eg. trug trafficers etc.)

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:51 pm

Oh, hey, can you tell me why your user title says "Cowboy Bebop Hater?" You seem to like Cowboy Bebop. . .

and is that character in the bottom banner Vash or Spike? The hair looks like Vash, but the coat looks like Spike's.

Postby **inkjet1987** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:54 pm

Oh yeah, I hate cowboy bebop, no I thought it would be funny, I love the show!

And it's vash.

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:01 pm

It's funny Inkjet. You really confused me for days. Which, with me, is not hard to do, hehe

Postby **inkjet1987** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:02 pm

I am sorry for this, I apologize!

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:19 pm

It's all right :hug:

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:36 pm

On that site, that is considered harassment and punishable by federal law... Check my link, harassment is near the bottom, but it's there, and the FBI is who they direct that to... Those porn trolls definately count as harassment

Postby **Mithrandir** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:34 pm

Sorry this is so late, but I just had to do a little research. I hate to disapoint you guys, but this isn't illegal. My research turned up the following.

The legal definition of harassment according to Black's Law Dictionary is:
"A course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose" or "words, gestures, and actions which tend to annoy, alarm and abuse (verbally) another person."

This tends to lead me to believe that our friends here would qualify. However, the offical stance of the government would tend to disagree...

Cases that DO NOT constitute harassment:
* Someone who simply disagrees with you, however strongly or unpleasantly.
* Someone who sends you a single e-mail that is not blatantly threatening.
* Spam, even though it is very annoying.
* Messages posted to any open arena, such as newsgroups, message boards, or forums or chat rooms, unless they are forged to appear to have come from you or contain direct threats or libelous statements.
* Information posted on a website.

Cases that DO constitute harassment:
* Repeated communication via e-mail or an instant messaging program after the harasser has been clearly told to stop.

INAL, but I think that's pretty specific.

(NOTE: Posted for reference only. This post not intended to *bump* this thread in any form.)

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:41 pm

It could apply to the AIM trolls, however.

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:08 pm

So you're saying that posting somethign to a public forum that could get them arrested if they were to carry the same picture around and wave it in front of people's faces, even once, don't count on this website? That's a bit rediculous... I still think we should be able to do SOMETHING...

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