ADXC (post: 1478917) wrote:It's not so much that I dislike certain words as much as I dislike it when they are used improperly.
Also, "um" is referred to as verbal garbage and should be eliminated from all speech entirely. If you do not know what to say, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT instead of stammering.
Yuki-Anne (post: 1478915) wrote:I should perhaps mention that I tend to say "like" a whole lot in everyday conversation. It's kind of a habitual thing, and when I take note of it, I am genuinely surprised by the frequency with which I use it. :/
ADXC (post: 1478917) wrote:Also, "um" is referred to as verbal garbage and should be eliminated from all speech entirely. If you do not know what to say, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT instead of stammering.
Interestingly enough, "umm" is actually not terribly as improper as you may think. Yes, it's a space filler, and yes, it can get tiresome is someone uses "umm" after every word in their sentence, but it can be used as a helpful pause for the listeners as well as the speaker.ADXC (post: 1478924) wrote:Yes that is a tool that we use, but it is still improper.
This depends on the audience. Presidential speeches? Yeah, no "umm"s there. But speeches given in a less formal sense, it tends to work better and if anything, helps you feel connected with the speaker if s/he occasionally uses an "umm" to gather their thoughts/breath. It can been seen as a sign of confidence if used correctly.ADXC (post: 1478976) wrote:Well, I mean officially in speeches. You should be confident enough when giving them that you do not have to rely on umm. I've taken Fundamentals of Oral Communication. You were DOCKED points if you used any verbal garbage or "filler."
No matter what you say though it is still improper English. However yeah, we use it to stall time in everyday conversation.
ADXC (post: 1478978) wrote:Agh, read my post. I mean formally it's not that great (You can do it, I just get annoyed when people do).
Informally, which is most of our lives, it is alright.
If I didn't learn that from a class, which costed quite a bit of money, that saying um is bad, then I wouldn't really worry about it.
The OP was words that irritated you and I believe that Um is one of those words for me. Now it's more a matter of preference than dogmatic rules.
ADXC (post: 1478981) wrote:Also, I don't see anything wrong with costed.
Nate (post: 1478993) wrote:Actually, I think the words "um" and "uh" are extremely invaluable and useful in language. It implies you are thinking about something, and are giving an indication as such. For example, imagine I'm giving a speech or presentation, and start to say something but am having a bit of a brain fart. Is it more preferable for me to stand there silently, saying nothing, staring into space like an idiot? Or is it more preferable for me to say something like "Um, hold on..."
I'm of the belief that saying SOMETHING, anything, is preferable to standing there not making a sound.
Also know another word I hate? "A." A isn't a word, it's a letter. Come on, English. You're not fooling anyone.
Yamamaya (post: 1478994) wrote:Actually that's not entirely accurate. According to my speech class that I took this semester, it's better to have a moment of silence rather than to fill the time with verbal junk like "um and uh." It calls attention to the fact that you've forgotten what you want to say and it adds more stress on you. In fact, a moment of silence can be good. It allows the audience time to take in what you're saying.
People are more forgiving of small periods of silence than a ton of verbal junk.
Yamamaya wrote:Actually that's not entirely accurate. According to my speech class that I took this semester, it's better to have a moment of silence rather than to fill the time with verbal junk like "um and uh."
blkmage wrote:There's a difference between one-on-one conversation and an address to a large group.
Nate (post: 1479000) wrote:I'll bet you fifty dollars if I stood in front of you in real life, and started talking to you, then stopped mid-sentence and just stared at you silently, you would find that infinitely worse and more disturbing than if I said "Uh...um...hold on, it's on the tip of my tongue."
Fifty bucks.
Nate (post: 1479004) wrote:If I was watching a speech, I'd still prefer someone to say "um" or "uh" rather than stopping cold in the middle of their sentence and standing there like they're some sort of pull-string doll waiting for someone to yank their cord so they can continue their sentence.
USSRGirl (post: 1478802) wrote:I don't mind cussing/don't get offended by it, but it is pretty annoying when people center their vocabulary around cuss words. Completely out of context... like "Hi, I want a bleepin' burger with bleep bleep fries and a side of bleep! Oh, and - bleep! - is that $6.50? Can I use a bleepin' credit card?" That's rather unclassy I must say... XD It just sound very weird and kinda goofy in that case...
Jaden Mental (post: 1478794) wrote:Bigoted is a word I dislike, but mostly in terms how often it is abused. Same with discriminating. Few things angers me more than a teenager who has a relatively decent living standard firing those blind punches. I put these words in because they just make something in my mind tick every time I notice them, but that does not mean I always disagree with their use. Just when the words are diminished beyond their original meaning, which sadly has been quite often with some people I know.
continued wrote:What else.... Oh, I hate it when one word is traded for another. Just because it is suddenly deemed inappropriate, or been neutral and picked up a bad rep. Now, true enough some alterations are justified, but other times it is just trivial.
Nate (post: 1478993) wrote:Actually, I think the words "um" and "uh" are extremely invaluable and useful in language. It implies you are thinking about something, and are giving an indication as such. For example, imagine I'm giving a speech or presentation, and start to say something but am having a bit of a brain fart. Is it more preferable for me to stand there silently, saying nothing, staring into space like an idiot? Or is it more preferable for me to say something like "Um, hold on..."
I'm of the belief that saying SOMETHING, anything, is preferable to standing there not making a sound.
Also know another word I hate? "A." A isn't a word, it's a letter. Come on, English. You're not fooling anyone.
armeckthefirst (post: 1479003) wrote:i hate it when people say "Jesus" as an obscenity
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