Metroid prime

[TGJesusfreak]

Anyone here a Metroid prime fan?

Anyone have any thoughts about them?

[Midori]

I must say, Metroid is one of the few games that made the transition from 2D to 3D really well. I don't often pick favorites, but Metroid Prime is definitely one of my favorite games ever. It has great control and music, and it's definitely one of the most beautiful games for GC, up there with RE4 and Zelda TP.

Prime 2 is also very good in the same way, though in my opinion not quite as good as 1. I feel the same about Prime 3, though its controls are absolutely fantastic. It was the one game that made me (and I think many others) realize that the Wii's controller really was superior to prior input devices (including mouse+keyboard). Though it really works better if you switch to the "expert" controls, which I recommend even for beginners.

But Metroid games are all about the environment. Prime 1 had great areas all around. Prime 2 was a little boring near the beginning but made up for it with the Sanctuary Fortress. I actually wasn't as impressed by the Prime 3 environments though. They were mostly too derivative. (Ancient ruins with lava-stand-in? Cloud City with steam robots?) The Pirate Homeworld and wrecked ship weren't bad though. I think the upcoming Metroid game has a lot of potential for coolness in this area.

[TGJesusfreak]

Yeah Midori I agree with you. I thought that MP1's areas were much better and more diverse then MP2 (with the exeption of sanctuary fortress).

MP3 I thought was well exicuted. The plot was far superior than other games. But the other 2 games seemed to be leading up to it so it may have been planned from the begining to keep a person curious. But as far as game controls go it was awesome. We just got the MP trilogy so I look forward to playing MP1 and MP2 with these new controls ^____^

Though I'm a bit surprised that it took them untill the 3rd game to realize that Samus' ship sould be used to fly to other areas (as well as bomb places and whatnot).

[Peanut]

The Prime trilogy is one of my favorite game series ever. I love them all though I would agree with the general sentiment that 1>3>2.

While Prime 3 does seem to have a better story (though that's kind of by default since Prime's plot was almost non-existent and Prime 2's plot was there but...wasn't really good), I do sort of miss the lack of voice acting and silent cutscenes. Not because Prime 3's cutscenes and voice acting were bad but because Retro Studios was just so good at them. Specifically, I'm thinking of a certain cutscene right before the final fight with Dark Samus in Prime 2.

Though I'm a bit surprised that it took them untill the 3rd game to realize that Samus' ship sould be used to fly to other areas (as well as bomb places and whatnot).

The main reason is that it hadn't really been done in any other Metroid games up to that point (Metroid Prime Hunters being the exception). Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were both trying to capture the feel of the original games which took place on one, massive planet that you had to explore to accomplish your goals. Because of this, the "planets" in the other Metroid games and Prime 1 and 2 have more areas then the "planets" in Prime 3.

[battletech]

Do most people agree that Prime 2 is the hardest? I tend to think soo. I have seen others say so too.
Every time I think or see anything about Other M I feel like I need an O2 supply.

[TGJesusfreak]

While Prime 3 does seem to have a better story (though that's kind of by default since Prime's plot was almost non-existent and Prime 2's plot was there but...wasn't really good), I do sort of miss the lack of voice acting and silent cutscenes. Not because Prime 3's cutscenes and voice acting were bad but because Retro Studios was just so good at them. Specifically, I'm thinking of a certain cutscene right before the final fight with Dark Samus in Prime 2.

Oh yeah definitly. They were masters at the silent no voice acting cutscenes. One cutscene that I think of also is in dark Agon after you get all the keys, after you kill the tri-worm thing (the name escapes me right now). Now that was a pretty cool cutscene.

Do most people agree that Prime 2 is the hardest? I tend to think soo. I have seen others say so too.
Every time I think or see anything about Other M I feel like I need an O2 supply.

To put it in perspective. I beat Metroid prime 3 without dying once. Metroid prime 1 I beat without to much trouble (only dying maybe twice in the entire game). Metroid prime 2's bosses almost always got me (mostly the final boss stages).

The final boss for MP2 has around 5-6 stages, as opposed to the final boss in MP3 which had only around 3 (shorter) stages. MP1's last 2 bosses (Meta Ridley and Metroid Prime) were pretty dang hard as well. My point is that for the final game in the series you'd think that MP3 might have a harder final boss *shrugs*.

[Peanut]

After giving it some thought, yes, Prime 2 is the hardest for one reason: The freaking Boost Guardian. The bosses in the first Metroid Prime were hard but I found in my first play through that they actually made you a better player as you went on. By Prime 3, I was so used to the game that there really wasn't anything that bothered me. The Boost Guardian though...it still gives me nightmares...I hate that thing. The final two fights of Prime 2 are hard also if only because you have to fight them back to back and the last one has a timer on it.

[Ante Bellum]

I would like to say that I am very much a fan. I have the three separate games plus Trilogy...but I don't have anything else, to be honest. I think that MP3 could have wrapped it up a bit nicer and could have been longer, but I also think that 1 and 2 could have led up to it better. Besides the plot though, I think they have good areas, interesting enemies, and the graphics are great.
MP2 kind of felt like the odd game of the trilogy, probably because of the whole light/dark scenario, but I like it. And Sanctuary Fortress is a really cool place, I agree.
I think the music is amazing, and I think that even though the voiceacting wasn't necessary, they didn't ruin it either. Now I am looking forward to everything in Other M, I'm sure a lot of things Retro did will have a lot of influence.

[TGJesusfreak]

After giving it some thought, yes, Prime 2 is the hardest for one reason: The freaking Boost Guardian. The bosses in the first Metroid Prime were hard but I found in my first play through that they actually made you a better player as you went on. By Prime 3, I was so used to the game that there really wasn't anything that bothered me. The Boost Guardian though...it still gives me nightmares...I hate that thing. The final two fights of Prime 2 are hard also if only because you have to fight them back to back and the last one has a timer on it.

Oh, heck yeah! The boost quardian made me go just about nuts. It took me 2 of 3 hours to beat that thing (on my first playthrough)... and I was using super missiles T__T. surprisingly though I didn't die once on my 2nd playthrough (more ecperience I guess).

Just out of curiousity who here hates (with great loathing) the boost guardian? *raises hand*

I think the music is amazing

I second this.

[Ante Bellum]

*raises hand*

I first hated the Omega Pirate...but then I met the Boost Guardian. Now the Omega Pirate is easy on Hard Mode, and Boost Guardian still angers me.

[Peanut]

If it wasn't clear from my earlier post...I hate the Boost Guardian...

I might as well mention this now since Other M has been brought up...but I'm actually kind of worried about it. You see, MP3 was my favorite game in the series. It met all my expectations and left me quite satisfied. Because of this, any 3D Metroid game (and to be fair, any Retro Studios game) is going to have high standards set for it before it is released. Because of this, the game could be good but I may end up being very disappointed with it a la No More Heroes 2. Eh, we'll find out when the game is finally released.

[Ante Bellum]

I'm still going to give it a chance. Besides, as far as I know there hasn't been a horrible Metroid game, ever. And I think the guy who did Super Metroid will be working on Other M, so it's not like they just gave it away to be made.

[Nate]

Besides, as far as I know there hasn't been a horrible Metroid game, ever.

[Peanut]

While that is a bad Metroid game...its not a bad game (which I think is what Ante meant by her comment). Metacritic has it listed at a 79 so its generally viewed as a good game...though it isn't Metroid...

[Ante Bellum]

Was it really that bad? I hear people talk about it like it is but it's just a pinball game, right?

[battletech]

The gametrailers website has new info on Other M.

[Nate]

Part of me wants to go see the new info on Other M just so I can find out how horribly Team Ninja has butchered and destroyed the Metroid franchise, and what kind of breast jiggle physics they gave Samus.

But then I realized I don't want to cry as another game franchise is flushed down the toilet.

[Ante Bellum]

You really don't trust them, do you?

[Peanut]

Part of me wants to go see the new info on Other M just so I can find out how horribly Team Ninja has butchered and destroyed the Metroid franchise, and what kind of breast jiggle physics they gave Samus.

But then I realized I don't want to cry as another game franchise is flushed down the toilet.

This actually motivated me to go and watch the new stuff on Gametrailers about Other M. And at first it seemed like both you and I were wrong. Team Ninja seemed to be trying to create an old style Metroid game with FPS and Ninja Gaiden elements and while this may have been overambitious it looked like maybe it would be a good game after all with over the top cutscenes...then the individual they were interviewing said something along the lines of "And then there is the concentration move which allows you to replenish you missiles as long as you aren't getting hit...oh and this same move can replenish your health when you get to under 30% as well."

I'm sorry...but that isn't Metroid. I know they toss missiles and energy at you left and right, but its not like Samus was pulling them out of thin air, nor did her suit recharge like Master Chief's. Any faith I have in Team Ninja has just been dashed...again...

[Ante Bellum]

D:

Wow. I didn't expect that, to be honest. Hopefully it's optional.

[Nate]

You really don't trust them, do you?

Nope.

I was one of the people who, when Metroid Prime was being made, said "Hey it's going to be an FPS? That's pretty cool!" I embraced the change. I looked forward to it despite the fanboys who said "Metroid as an FPS will totally suck and Retro Studios should die because it'll be the worst Metroid game ever made!" I believed! And I was proven right. Metroid Prime was awesome.

This is to put off any statements that "Oh you probably hated Metroid Prime you just don't like change therefore your opinion is invalid."

But Other M just looks awful. I can't think of a single positive thing to say about it.

[Ante Bellum]

I wasn't going to say that.
I'm not entirely sure what to expect. I think it looks promising, good even, but then again I thought Knights of Ratatosk was going to be good...and it wasn't, really, from what I've heard.

[TGJesusfreak]

Okay, question: what was your favorite M game?

I think my 3 favorites are MP3, Metroid zero mission, and MP2 (with the new wii controls in the MP trilogy).

I was one of the people who, when Metroid Prime was being made, said "Hey it's going to be an FPS? That's pretty cool!" I embraced the change. I looked forward to it despite the fanboys who said "Metroid as an FPS will totally suck and Retro Studios should die because it'll be the worst Metroid game ever made!" I believed! And I was proven right. Metroid Prime was awesome.

The first M game we got was "zero mission" (with the original NES along with it). followed by MP2 for christmas 4 or so years ago (our dad didn't realize that there was an MP1 yet). So I grew to love the FPS aspect pretty quick. XD