Watchmen live-action adaption
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Well its a little early to start hating on individuals scenes because we really dont know anything yet. I dont know about you guys but im looking forward to it.
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I'm interested in this one. They presented implications of morale quandaries indicate to me this movie will be intellectual and include complex characters with variety of motivations and ethical and moral viewpoints. Or so I hope. I will be annoyed if the end is merely a reinforcement of nihilistic ideologies.
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Doubleshadow (post: 1249844) wrote:I'm interested in this one. They presented implications of morale quandaries indicate to me this movie will be intellectual and include complex characters with variety of motivations and ethical and moral viewpoints.
That's basically Watchmen for you. =)
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randomuser83 wrote:Well its a little early to start hating on individuals scenes because we really dont know anything yet. I dont know about you guys but im looking forward to it.
Naturally I plan to see it and predict I will enjoy it. But if there is any movie that deserves nitpicking, it is Watchmen. The graphic novel is a carefully crafted masterpiece and it would be terrible if it was turned into a simple action film. Those can be fun, but not if they were supposed to be Watchmen.
Doubleshadow wrote:I'm interested in this one. They presented implications of morale quandaries indicate to me this movie will be intellectual and include complex characters with variety of motivations and ethical and moral viewpoints. Or so I hope. I will be annoyed if the end is merely a reinforcement of nihilistic ideologies.
I don't think the original story ultimately intends to endorse the philosophies of any specific character. Hopefully the movie will retain the spirit of ambiguity.
Though I really wonder how reviewers will react to the film...
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if you guys have the time, check out this link:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/comic_con_2008/news/1743960/watching_the_watchmen_trailer_a_detailed_analysis
Rotten Tomatoes did a 10-page, in-depth trailer analysis. I found it to be quite an interesting read. Especially the fact that they took the trailer apart and literally analyzed every 2-3 seconds of the trailer.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/comic_con_2008/news/1743960/watching_the_watchmen_trailer_a_detailed_analysis
Rotten Tomatoes did a 10-page, in-depth trailer analysis. I found it to be quite an interesting read. Especially the fact that they took the trailer apart and literally analyzed every 2-3 seconds of the trailer.
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"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
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"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
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"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
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"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
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"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
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Here are some very cool posters for the movie, based off of the original comic posters: http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/have-you-heard-of-this-watchmen-thing/
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Already saw the HQ posters some days ago. Overall I must say they're awesome, but I do wish they would've laid off the whole nipple thing on Laurie. I know what they're aiming for here, but it still just looks stupid and wrong.
Then again, I guess it'll just add onto Rorschach's line of "I never cared for your costume..." later on.
Then again, I guess it'll just add onto Rorschach's line of "I never cared for your costume..." later on.
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This is a new promo poster. Also, the video documentaries on the making of the film, along with some additional footage shown at the Spike Scream 200 Awards can be found on the movie's blog. EDIT: Er... It appears that there may be some spoilers in that additional footage. I don't know if someone unfamiliar with the story would pick up on them or not, though.
My hopes that this will be good are getting more and more positive.
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Well... this does sound a little interesting I guess. I had heard of this but the subject didn't interest me enough to check it out before. Never read or even heard of the comic till recently. Thought it was just another generic superhero type thing. Anyway, the trailer looked nice but I dunno... the posters are better IMO. I thought they were awesome. Trailer didn't really show enough of what it was about or anything and I still feel like it looks like another boring superhero movie. But it looked nice 
And hearing that its NOT just another run of the mill superhero flick is nice to hear. I hope its really good though and does fantastic in theaters... maybe then they'll finally make a Sandman movie.
And hearing that its NOT just another run of the mill superhero flick is nice to hear. I hope its really good though and does fantastic in theaters... maybe then they'll finally make a Sandman movie."Take me down, shake me out. Give me a brain, that I might know You better"
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Oohoohoo. Watchmen is anything BUT your generic superhero movie. It focuses more on the humanity of many of the heroes. (Only one really has any superpowers, and that's Dr. Manhattan)
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Generic superhero fiction is just the sort of thing Watchmen was written to replace. The Idea of the Superhero is just the disguise it wears to mask its true identity.[spoiler]Though it's not much of a Defender of Justice, really.[/spoiler]
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Man, this is making me want to finish the comic. XD I'd kind of like to see this now, seriously. XD
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The fact that this movie is impending has brought all the intelligent readers of graphic novels at my college out of the woodwork. It was in one of these conversations that I learned there was new footage, but I hadn't tracked it down yet. Thanks for posting.
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I am definitely looking forward, and so is Number One Son. In fact, he went to school on Halloween as Rohrshach, and made fourth-place in the costume contest (and he was seriously ticked at the winner, a girl who went as a nun with a short habit and fishnet stockings. I seriously have questions about his high-school now!)
By the way, he was pleasantly surprised at exactly how many people recognized the character. He also had some fun with the fact that it genuinely scared a number of girls.
By the way, he was pleasantly surprised at exactly how many people recognized the character. He also had some fun with the fact that it genuinely scared a number of girls.
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Largo: "Well Ed, good to see ya. Guess I gotta beat the crap out of you now."
Jamie Hyneman: "It's just another lovely day at the bomb range. Birds are singing, rabbits are hopping about, and soon there's going to be a big explosion."
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Yet another new promo poster:
Wow.
Wow.
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FREAKIN' A YES.
The posters are closer to the spirit of the comic than the preview. That falling one though...absolutely perfect.
The posters are closer to the spirit of the comic than the preview. That falling one though...absolutely perfect.
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(For whatever reason, the website with the exclusive on this poster only supplied this tiny pic of it. :/ )
I really like how they've kept John Higgins' color palette. It gives everything such an atmosphere.
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I am amazed.
If nothing else, the film will be a visual treat, though especially for comic book fans.
If nothing else, the film will be a visual treat, though especially for comic book fans.
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Alright, this time there's a real trailer. No more of this "Teaser" nonsense.
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/watchmen.html?showVideo=1
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/watchmen.html?showVideo=1
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wow .....i can not wait
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Aw c'mon! The teaser was fantastic! This is as well.
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This could go either way really, but I'm excited for it based on how it's looking now. I'm afraid a bit though, since I heard online that supposedly the ending has been changed. How true this is I'm not sure, and it could very well be false, but it is what I heard....which worries me.
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I actually don't like the trailer as much as the teaser. That doesn't mean I think it's worse - the trailer is simply attempting to set up plot and characters. Already knowing both, I preferred the stylized shots from before.
From what I have read, they attempted to change the form of the ending without changing the intent. I can live with this, though I'll see what I think of it in the context of the film itself.
Osirilen wrote:This could go either way really, but I'm excited for it based on how it's looking now. I'm afraid a bit though, since I heard online that supposedly the ending has been changed. How true this is I'm not sure, and it could very well be false, but it is what I heard....which worries me.
From what I have read, they attempted to change the form of the ending without changing the intent. I can live with this, though I'll see what I think of it in the context of the film itself.
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I also preferred the execution of the music-synced teaser. Very succinct without giving too much away, just enough.
Not sure what I think about them...[spoiler]Revealing the Comedian's death right off the bat. I mean, yes, it'd be the first scene in the film, hardly spoilerific, but I believe it'd have more impact on non-comic book readers if they walked in thinking the Comedian was a major player, only to find out he dies immediately.
Granted, that'd be a double subversion, since the Comedian is important, just in a different way than laid out.[/spoiler]
Not sure what I think about them...[spoiler]Revealing the Comedian's death right off the bat. I mean, yes, it'd be the first scene in the film, hardly spoilerific, but I believe it'd have more impact on non-comic book readers if they walked in thinking the Comedian was a major player, only to find out he dies immediately.
Granted, that'd be a double subversion, since the Comedian is important, just in a different way than laid out.[/spoiler]
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