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Postby Bio_Plus » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:00 am

[quote="Nate"]Yes, it was. A lot of people were complaining that AJ was just being too competitive and hated losing, which is usually more associated with Dash (Fall Weather Friends aside). But the real problem was that she didn't win the prize money, which she had promised to the mayor and the citizens. After getting their hopes up, she felt that she would disappoint everyone, perhaps even earn their hatred, by returning empty-handed. It wasn't just about the ribbons]
I know that you're saying that whole situation with the money was the problem, but I'm still gonna nitpick about one little thing, if that's alright with you. If Applejack decided to give the money without telling anyone she'd be disappointed when she didn't get it, but she wouldn't think much else of it. But because she promised everyone she'd get the money beforehand it led to all her problems. I don't see Applejack as the type that would be bothered what others think of her or hated her, but her stubborn pride would let her falter because she didn't keep a promise. I say that the big problem was the promise.
“Now, why did she do what she did instead of fessing up? Because we wouldn't have an episode otherwise.â€
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Postby Nate » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:04 pm

Bio_Plus wrote:I don't see Applejack as the type that would be bothered what others think of her or hated her

I'll have to watch the episode again but I'm pretty sure after the others caught up with her she said something about "I let the whole town down." Applebloom's comment about "All those blue ribbons!" at the beginning of the episode probably nagged at her too.
[quote]“Now, why did she do what she did instead of fessing up? Because we wouldn't have an episode otherwise.â€
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Postby Bio_Plus » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:22 pm

But it really is the real reason. This is why the ponies aren't always perfect representations of their elements. If AJ was always honest, no matter what, we would have had an episode where she sent a telegram saying "I'm sorry, I lost the rodeo, but I have a part-time job to make the money for the town hall repairs, and won't be back in Ponyville." And everyone would go "Oh okay" and life would go on as usual.

I get what you're saying and if we couldn't explain Applejack's reasons for running away, then sure I'll let it slide. But in this case we can explain Applejack's reasons, even if the Ponies doesn't represent their elements perfectly, which I agree they do not, it is still accepted that it's one of their strongest characteristics. So then what would make Applejack be dishonest? And as you said her stubborn pride has led her astray many times before, after all in 'Fall weather friends' she ended up cheating which was very dishonest. So we don't need to say that the episode was just for story's sake or that Applejack was ooc, and the writer didn't just put up an episode with lots of gags (twitchy tails come to mind) but put a lot of thought into the position of the characters and their actions. Of course this whole thing started because at first I thought AJ was ooc, but it's different now.

They can, but most of them haven't. Lyra's canon name is "Heartstrings," and I'm pretty sure Vinyl's is officially DJ PON-3 based on the Equestria Girls song. Also, Carrot Top's official name is Golden Harvest. I've been keeping up with a lot of the canon name complaints.

Actually the blind bag names doesn't equal canon, after all they got Trixie's name wrong. Only canon if it's mentioned in the show, imo. And yes Vinyl is officially DJ PON-3 and I accept that as canon, but it's her stage name as every DJ has one, she could still be called Vinyl in the show. And I do like Minuette I hope that sticks.

Well the only reason she's called that is because of drinking that punch in Call of the Cutie. And the fact that she's always drunk. Oh Berry Punch, will you ever be sober?

I also don't see how Berryshine can be your favorite background pony when she's never appeared in an episode to my knowledge at least. I've only seen a couple of other ponies with Berry Punch's cutie mark and none of them were unicorns or the right color.

For me Berryshine = [SIZE="1"]Berry Punch[/SIZE]. Oh so you're going to hold that Rarity recolour against me now, that's fine I'll call her Hidden Berry instead.
That's exactly why I don't like that name. I look at Berry and I see her nose in the apples and I see her drinking from the punch bowl at a children's party and I think she's so cute doing that, she's shy and she's a little daring and a little rude doing that. She sneaks into everywhere like in the fashion show in 'Green isn't your colour.' (she wasn't wearing a dress like the fancy ponies so I say sneaked in) and she avoided Pinkie's cartwheel attack in 'Bird in the hoof' (Walks out, Pinkie attacks, appears back inside, gots skillz. (Or she respawned,:shady: but ignore that.)) The fandom comes, sees her drinking from a punch bowl and makes her a drunkard. What!?:stressed: Why!?:bang: Yeah, whatever. She won the Sisterhooves social, she's apple pie! And please tell me where she's always drunk? I would like to go and look at that and then fabricate a story to defend her. :mutter: :pant: :pant:
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Postby Felix » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:46 pm

@Bio That was an impressive rant, and I'd say it's all quite true. Me, I really don't like it when people put less-than-innocent attributes on ponies, like drunkenness and (worst of all) sexual innuendo or lesbian "shipping". I guess you get that kind of stuff from the fans of pretty much any innocent show, but it still really bothers me. I don't like that kind of stuff anyway, but when it's applied to ponies, it's extra offensive somehow. One big reason this show is so great is because of its charming innocence.

The thoughts about AJ's motives are very interesting. I hadn't really thought about it all that much after watching the episode, but her dishonesty DID bother me just a little bit. I think I agree though that she was in character and just struggling between honesty in keeping her promise and honesty in telling the full truth. And of course, her stubborn pride has to get mixed up too! I think the episode definitely stays true to AJ's character instead of making her dishonest just for the sake of a dynamic plot. It fleshes her out a little more and reveals some of her weak areas with regard to her element.

Also, here, have another PMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSWlngwsygU
I spent a lot of time on this one, so I hope you all like it!
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Postby Nate » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:12 pm

Bio_Plus wrote:So then what would make Applejack be dishonest?

When her pride gets in the way. Like in Applebuck Season when she kept telling Twilight "I don't need any help!" She knew she did, but she refused to admit it because of her pride. And, as you mentioned, she repeatedly cheated in Fall Weather Friends to win the race.
Actually the blind bag names doesn't equal canon, after all they got Trixie's name wrong.

More canon than the fan names at least. The FiM wiki has it this way: most commonly accepted fanon name. If a character's name is mentioned in-show, that's officially their name. If their name is not mentioned in the show, but a blind-bag pony with the same color scheme is released, then that is considered their official name.

This is why the Derpy Hooves entry was changed to just "Derpy." Since they didn't say "Hooves" in the show, her name is officially considered to be just Derpy. With the blind bag ponies, they may have gotten Trixie's name wrong, but her name was mentioned in show (highest canon). For the others, since they have no names in the show, blind bag is considered official names, so we have Heartstrings and Golden Harvest.
For me Berryshine = [SIZE="1"]Berry Punch[/SIZE]. Oh so you're going to hold that Rarity recolour against me now

Yes, Berry Punch isn't a unicorn. :p Even if you were to consider blind bag canon, Berryshine is a unicorn.
The fandom comes, sees her drinking from a punch bowl and makes her a drunkard. What!?:stressed: Why!?:bang:

"Hey look everybody! The punch has been...Spiked!" :p
And please tell me where she's always drunk? I would like to go and look at that and then fabricate a story to defend her. :mutter: :pant: :pant:

When is she ever not drunk? That's the better question!
I really don't like it when people put less-than-innocent attributes on ponies, like drunkenness and (worst of all) sexual innuendo or lesbian "shipping".

I understand your position and respect it.
[SPOILER]But Flutterpie is still best ship.[/SPOILER]
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Postby Twister980 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:14 am

Felix (post: 1529381) wrote: Me, I really don't like it when people put less-than-innocent attributes on ponies, like drunkenness and (worst of all) sexual innuendo or lesbian "shipping". I guess you get that kind of stuff from the fans of pretty much any innocent show, but it still really bothers me. I don't like that kind of stuff anyway, but when it's applied to ponies, it's extra offensive somehow. One big reason this show is so great is because of its charming innocence.


Well, for me Berry Punch would be more of a bartender, but I agree with you on the shipping issue. Though if I'd ship anyone, maybe Fluttershy or Twilight with Big Macintosh. Plus Spike and Rarity. xDD

[SPOILER] Or my OC with Rainbow Dash. :-^o^-: [/SPOILER]
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Postby Felix » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:23 am

" wrote:"Hey look everybody! The punch has been...Spiked!" :p

Well that line occurred 12 episodes after the event in question, plus it was just Pinkie Pie making one of her awful puns. Hardly evidence for her alleged drunkenness.

" wrote:When is she ever not drunk? That's the better question!

I checked just about every appearance of her that I could find listed, and she doesn't appear the slightest bit drunk in a single one of them. I mean, how could she have won the Sisterhooves Social if she was drunk?
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Postby Bio_Plus » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:58 am

@Felix Thanks, I strive to one day rant like Rarity. And thanks for another pmv, I'll watch it soon.

More canon than the fan names at least.
I won't argue with that. Although the fandom isn't much bothered by the blindbag names. Lyra has become Lyra Heartstrings in the fandom and I've seen more people using Golden Harvest lately, but on the other hand Blues and Colgate has mostly stayed with their fanon names.
But it is worth mentioning that the creators of the show have commented that there isn't much contact between them and Hasbro's toy division (I believe it was Jayson who commented on that) and they don't have much say to what the toy division does, which could mean that fanon names are still up for grabs.
Yes, Berry Punch isn't a unicorn. :p Even if you were to consider blind bag canon, Berryshine is a unicorn.
Hidden Berry is best background pony.:cool:

And Twister980 oc/Dash is best shipping.:D
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Postby Twister980 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:33 am

Bio_Plus (post: 1529473) wrote: And Twister980 oc/Dash is best shipping.:D


I know. xD

BTW. His Nickname is now Captain Equestria. xD
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Postby TopazRaven » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:15 am

None of the pony pairings actually bother me as long as it's not perverted. Shippers gonna ship. Yes, I know I'm being random.
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Postby Tigerchu » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:52 am

What's wrong with My Little Pony?
Have faith
-From somewhere in the Bible, and I agree with it

-God will only give you what you can take. He will not overwhelm you.
-From somewhere in the Bible

-Your faith becomes stronger when it's tested.
-I saw a Chinese guy with a cross on his restaurant desk in America. That's so cool. You can do that here. Not so much China.

I've recently been learning that I don't need to be "loud and pushy" to Evangelize; just living it out is enough witness. The problem was that I grew up around strong Evangelists (Korean Christians) and they were really into getting people involved and setting out to Evangelize, and me being a a yes-man (or yes woman) I was into trying to convert people.
I've been learning this lesson over the years, but have been trying to be pushy. Now I'm trying to ease off.
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Postby Bio_Plus » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:25 pm

Tigerchu (post: 1529496) wrote:What's wrong with My Little Pony?

Chocolate rain.
Shaded personalities.
Dragons (Residential and wild)
Twitchy tails.
Late reports.
Intense competitions.
Forests that grows on their own.
Manticores and Basilisk.
Stare!
Griffins
Things that are great and powerful.
Moulting phoenix.

Did I miss anything?
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Postby Nate » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:17 pm

Felix wrote:I checked just about every appearance of her that I could find listed, and she doesn't appear the slightest bit drunk in a single one of them. I mean, how could she have won the Sisterhooves Social if she was drunk?

Berry Pinch hid her booze from her. :p

I'm not saying it's canon, it's fanon. I don't honestly think she's drunk in the show. XD There's a lot of things that are fanon but I don't believe seriously, like Lyra and Bon-Bon being a couple. Of course it's not supported in the show itself, but it's so much fun to see them as a couple that I accept it.
But it is worth mentioning that the creators of the show have commented that there isn't much contact between them and Hasbro's toy division (I believe it was Jayson who commented on that) and they don't have much say to what the toy division does, which could mean that fanon names are still up for grabs.

I know that. But again, it's the hierarchy of canonicity. Blind bags are at least a form of canon, because they're officially released by the company. The show can and does override it, but a blind bag name is more official than what fans made up is all I'm saying.
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Postby Tigerchu » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:41 pm

I just see it as "My Little Ponies" in an anime style.
Have faith
-From somewhere in the Bible, and I agree with it

-God will only give you what you can take. He will not overwhelm you.
-From somewhere in the Bible

-Your faith becomes stronger when it's tested.
-I saw a Chinese guy with a cross on his restaurant desk in America. That's so cool. You can do that here. Not so much China.

I've recently been learning that I don't need to be "loud and pushy" to Evangelize; just living it out is enough witness. The problem was that I grew up around strong Evangelists (Korean Christians) and they were really into getting people involved and setting out to Evangelize, and me being a a yes-man (or yes woman) I was into trying to convert people.
I've been learning this lesson over the years, but have been trying to be pushy. Now I'm trying to ease off.
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Postby Felix » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:03 pm

" wrote:Did I miss anything?

I'd say all those things are what's right with it! And in that case, you forgot loads of stuff. Like, just about everything else. Cake being used as a weapon? Genius.

I understand that fanon will be fanon and shippers gonna ship. I actually really like the fandom and the majority of what it churns out, but I don't really like it when they start dragging the show down to a much lower level by pushing the same junk on it that everything else in the entertainment industry uses to get their ratings. One big reason the show is so groundbreaking is because it's so good without having to resort to that kind of stuff. *shrug*
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Postby Bio_Plus » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:43 am

I'd say all those things are what's right with it! And in that case, you forgot loads of stuff. Like, just about everything else. Cake being used as a weapon? Genius.
I was actually talking about things that would go wrong with the ponies, stuff that would ruin their day. But never mind, Cake Assault defeats my point.:P
I just see it as "My Little Ponies" in an anime style.
I wouldn't say it's anime style, but I can see what you're getting at.
Here you go:
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Postby Twister980 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:15 am

Aw. I've seen Card Captor Derpy before. :3 xDD

Anyone think I should post part of my story on here? Or should I just make a thread for it?
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Postby mechana2015 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:10 am

Please make new threads in Writing for any long form stories and link to them from this thread.
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Postby Twister980 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:17 am

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Postby Felix » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:02 pm

@Twister It's a good start :) I didn't know RD lived with her mom...

Here is my O.C., Cheddar Chomp, made with Pony Creator. He's a real goober :D He likes to bite things. And of course he loves cheese. Is it kosher for a pony to eat cheese?
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Postby Bio_Plus » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:40 am

Nice pony Felix!:XD: That looks like fun, maybe I should make my own, now do I make an OC or Ponysona.

The link to the Pony creator if anypony else wants one and doesn't have it yet.
http://generalzoi.deviantart.com/art/Pony-Creator-Full-Version-254295904
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Postby Felix » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:58 am

Is the pony in your avatar an OC, or a ponysona?
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Postby Bio_Plus » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:48 am

It's Caramel from the show. He lost the grass seeds in 'Winter wrap up', so he's canon. I guess that could make him my alter ego, maybe?:P
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Postby Nate » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:17 pm

Felix wrote:I don't really like it when they start dragging the show down to a much lower level

Wait, how is the fandom ever going to drag the show down? The Derpy thing was just a fun thing thrown in for the fans because it's ultimately harmless. A lot of the stuff you dislike can't and won't ever be in the show, so what's the problem?

What I'm saying is I love it when JJ draws pictures of say, Lyra and Bon-Bon getting married. You're free to dislike it, that's fine too, but it is impossible for that to "drag the show down." That picture in no way affects the episodes, it's never going to happen. The show is its own creation, and the fan works can never change the show itself. The creators may throw in fun jokes for fanservice, but the fans don't (and won't) have the power to put stuff they want into episodes.
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Postby Bio_Plus » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:01 pm

Here he is, my OC pony called Scout. He's an earth pony that's good at finding things and he's crushing on Hidden Berry.

It so cliché, I know, but it's been a long day and I've been fooling around with a pmv and it turned out somewhat scary. :shudder: So I just had to do something silly.:P
Also, if Twilight Sparkle turned evil would you be her minion?
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Postby TopazRaven » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:01 pm

Well...since everyone else was making one...Here is my pony FC Chocolate Pretzel. Yes I know, how original! :lol: Not. He runs a candy store that sells chocolate pretzels along with various other yummy things.

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His mane is very random because I couldn't find one I liked. 0.o
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Postby Felix » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:31 pm

" wrote:Wait, how is the fandom ever going to drag the show down?

I don't mean the show itself, as in the literal episodes. I guess I phrased that poorly. I more meant that I don't see the point of applying gross things to the show in general to make such fanon. I know the episodes won't get that way, but I don't like the widely accepted and discussed associations between the two. In my book, it drags down the spirit of the show and somewhat lowers my opinion of the fandom. And I'm just referring to the gross stuff here, not the harmless stuff the fandom comes up with. But anyway, that's just my opinion. If you're into that stuff, that's okay! It's just not for me.

I'm liking the OCs! Chocolate Pretzel's Sweetie Belle mane is just awesome :D I like the colors on him. And Bio, Scout is pretty cliche, but in a good way! He's awesome :) I hope that PMV comes along better. Post it when you're done!
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Postby TopazRaven » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:10 pm

Thank you! Sweetie Belle is my favorite cutie mark crusader. I knew the mane looked familier from somewhere, I just couldn't put my finger on it. xD Scout and Cheddar Chomp are both very cute too. xD Why is the pony creator so much fun? Meanwhile, I actually can agree with you to an extent Felix. Like I mentioned above I'm fine with the pairings. Wither they are straight or not, they are just fanon for the most part. The gross stuff though? No, just no. I actually stopped watching an MLP group over on DA because the stuff they were approving to be in the group there made me want to throw up sometimes. I really don't undertand why people would want to draw something like that about ponies for goodness sakes. 0.o
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Postby Bio_Plus » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:50 am

@TopazRaven: I like his mane. (had to be said:evil:)

My scary video isn't really a full out music video. I have been in a terrible block lately and decided to try and get out of it by putting ponies to various intros. I wasn't expecting much, but what turned out was very fun (except for the scary one), and I kinda like it.
Here are two of the videos I did:
I believe this was a good match
Pony Rescue Rangers
And this! Practising spotlight effect.:eyeroll:
CMC & D Mystery solvers

The scary one? I'm still deciding if I should upload it.
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Postby TopazRaven » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:18 am

Guys, guys, GUYS. Caramel talked! I haven't seen every episode yet, but this is the first time I ever heard him talk so I pretty much had the same reaction from when Derpy talked. xD
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