Nate (post: 1488812) wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxVyg3-3d0M
Nate (post: 1488820) wrote:But when you say "I do" you're saying it to the priest officiating the ceremony, not the other person. Thus it doesn't follow that she married the deaf kid. All we know is that the priest that was holding the wedding was deaf, forcing her to sign to him...but she could have been marrying anybody, so I still don't get it.
Destroyer2000 wrote:Therefore, she would sign it, whether or not it is directed at the priest.
Is it really necessary to try to ruin a good story, whether it is true or not?
Nate (post: 1488824) wrote:But the priest is the one who's asking "Do you take this person blah blah blah so on." So the priest needs to hear the answer, and if the priest didn't know sign language, she would have had to say "I do" verbally in addition to the signing, making the signing pointless because "I do" is pretty easy to lip read, and if he was actually deaf he would have read her lips when she said it! It still makes no sense!
It's necessary for things to make SENSE! HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE CRAZY?! AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GIVES A CRAP ABOUT LOGIC?!
MARK IT ZERO!
Ferb (post: 1488829) wrote:I get what you're saying, but if you just look at it with simple eyes you'll find it touching.
Nate (post: 1488824) wrote:But the priest is the one who's asking "Do you take this person blah blah blah so on." So the priest needs to hear the answer, and if the priest didn't know sign language, she would have had to say "I do" verbally in addition to the signing, making the signing pointless because "I do" is pretty easy to lip read, and if he was actually deaf he would have read her lips when she said it! It still makes no sense!
It's necessary for things to make SENSE! HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE CRAZY?! AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GIVES A CRAP ABOUT LOGIC?!
MARK IT ZERO!
ich1990 (post: 1488909) wrote:How is this romantic?
I am not being argumentative, I really want to be able to understand your mindset.
So would you say that this single fact, even devoid of all other details about these two people, is enough to declare the act of learning sign language "romantic"?Ferb (post: 1488910) wrote:She was willing to spend all her life doing sign language for this friend. In the end, she did sign language to the same person who she had befriended, her husband.
I don't think sign language is the main point of interest as much as "This person went out of their way to learn something for another person because they wanted to be their friend." In the case of this very short story we are given, sign language just happened to be that way of showing they cared about that other person. (while one cannot know for sure how important it was since we know little about either party, it must have carried some importance since they were getting married years after).ich1990 (post: 1488926) wrote:So would you say that this single fact, even devoid of all other details about these two people, is enough to declare the act of learning sign language "romantic"?
The story seems to have been posted by a sister, not a brother (unless her brother is named Elena....could be. >_>). Which may explain the "standing beside" (if she was the maid of honor). But, I do agree, it's not the most well written story. But then again, it does look like it was written on Facebook. XD;Yamamaya (post: 1488934) wrote:It's not that the story isn't romantic, it's just the way the ending is written that kills the mood.
For example, her brother wouldn't be standing beside her at her wedding. He'd be off to the side. In addition, I would say most deaf people learn to read lips.
It's a cute story but needs a bit more exposition.
Nate (post: 1488943) wrote:Oh, sign language is definitely way easier than reading lips. Reading lips can often be inaccurate, especially for long conversations. But for a short phrase like "I do" it'd be easy and simple to read. There's really no reason whatsoever to use sign language except the story wouldn't be "cute" if she didn't. And that's why it bothers me, because that is literally the only reason to sign "I do," is because if the story was just "My little sister asked to learn sign language to befriend a deaf kid at school and then later she married him" no one would think it was cute they'd just go "Okay." But by inserting the signing into it, it suddenly (somehow) becomes cute despite the fact it makes no logical sense.
Nate (post: 1488943) wrote:Oh, sign language is definitely way easier than reading lips. Reading lips can often be inaccurate, especially for long conversations. But for a short phrase like "I do" it'd be easy and simple to read. There's really no reason whatsoever to use sign language except the story wouldn't be "cute" if she didn't. And that's why it bothers me, because that is literally the only reason to sign "I do," is because if the story was just "My little sister asked to learn sign language to befriend a deaf kid at school and then later she married him" no one would think it was cute they'd just go "Okay." But by inserting the signing into it, it suddenly (somehow) becomes cute despite the fact it makes no logical sense.
ich1990 (post: 1488926) wrote:So would you say that this single fact, even devoid of all other details about these two people, is enough to declare the act of learning sign language "romantic"?
Nate (post: 1488943) wrote:Oh, sign language is definitely way easier than reading lips. Reading lips can often be inaccurate, especially for long conversations. But for a short phrase like "I do" it'd be easy and simple to read. There's really no reason whatsoever to use sign language except the story wouldn't be "cute" if she didn't. And that's why it bothers me, because that is literally the only reason to sign "I do," is because if the story was just "My little sister asked to learn sign language to befriend a deaf kid at school and then later she married him" no one would think it was cute they'd just go "Okay." But by inserting the signing into it, it suddenly (somehow) becomes cute despite the fact it makes no logical sense.
ChristianKitsune (post: 1488993) wrote:ADXC, please a little more polite.
And I think it could also have been more symbolic, don't you guys think? Maybe even to show the audience in attendence that she was devoted enough to her husband to learn all this so they can talk?
And she PROBABLY said "I Do" As she said it, most people who sign also say the words. So logically this makes sense. XD I don't see why everyone is getting so silly about it. It's just a cute story.
[Quote=goldenspines]I don't think sign language is the main point of interest as much as "This person went out of their way to learn something for another person because they wanted to be their friend." In the case of this very short story we are given, sign language just happened to be that way of showing they cared about that other person. (while one cannot know for sure how important it was since we know little about either party, it must have carried some importance since they were getting married years after).Ferb (post: 1488960) wrote:Absolutely. What the details are of those people is not important in this case, since it's just a romantic little story. In a book or film, yes, it would be required to give details of this lovely couple.
Edit: It's also the fact she went through all these years to develop such a close bond, which would lead to marriage. Such patience is rarely heard of.
Destroyer2000 wrote:We aren't computers]
I never said that humans should be void of emotion or that we are all rational.
I simply said this story doesn't make sense. That's not the same as saying humans are or should be computers. One of the points of a story (usually) is to tell a coherent, logical series of events. There are of course exceptions done in the name of art...for example, the novel Dhalgren. But this story isn't trying to deconstruct the art of narration or anything, so it's just a nonsensical story. Which badly needs to make sense.Facebook has a character limit, so I doubt there was room for much in the way of details.
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