teigeki_calesa (post: 1435816) wrote:CLAMP used to be one of my favorite groups. But they're slowly dropping off my watchlist when, at least in my eyes, their works are getting a little too.....out there.
Which is why I made this thread Virtually all of their manga has had an anime adaptation (though the quality usually varies from series to series), so you've probably heard of a title or two of theirs, such as Cardcaptor Sakura, Angelic Layer, or Chobits, without realizing that it was a CLAMP work. With almost 40 works and most of them having an anime, it's hard not to come across them sometime.Furen (post: 1435817) wrote:I don't think I've ever heard of them... than again I'm not one to read manga or watch too much anime
Ummm, are you sure that you're using the word 'enraging' right? The way you're using it, I think you mean that you wouldn't really get into something, but the actual word means that you'd get angry over something.blkmage (post: 1435859) wrote:A lot is made of their involvement doing character designs for a few things (Code Geass most notably, but also Mouryou no Hako...)
Out of the things that they're actually responsible for, I've only seen the Kobato anime, which I thought was pretty okay for the most part. From that experience, I can tell that I'd probably be okay with their stuff like Chobits or xxxHolic or CCS (which I've been meaning to check out as it's been sold to me as the magical girl show), but things like Tsubasa Chronicle would probably enrage me.
lolz, yeah- The limbs were a little out-of-hand in the first few volumes. I wonder whether they were trying for a closer look to xxxHolic. It didn't work and they got back to being beautifulAsuka Neko (post: 1435865) wrote:Heh, I saw the word CLAMP and went "MUSTREADTHISFORUM". I love CLAMP manga, especailly Tsubasa, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Kobato. And Wish. And Chobits. And...uh... I like Magic Knight Rayearth and Clover too.
Whoa. Sheesh. I like CLAMP art a lot, but sometimes their proportions are a bit odd... seriously, have you looked at Kurogane in some of the first couple volumes of TRC? (Hehe, this girl loves Kurogane so much she doesn't care about his disproporionate-ness). Anyways, my art style has been said to look a lot like CLAMP's.
It goes with any and every anime and manga! For instance, to pull one out of a hat, I'm a Zutara shipper (okay, it's not CLAMP, but...). It's been disproved by canon, and I totally get wailed on when I mention it in a lot of forums, but there you are.Actually, the only thing I don't like about their manga doesn't have anything to do with their art. The fans of their mangas (especially Tsubasa) can be...uh... vicious. But I guess that goes with any mangas. I'm probably just more suscpetible to being attacked by their fans because I don't support some of their favorite pairings... and I'm rambling, aren't I? Heh. I love CLAMP. And Fai. And...you know, there are reasons for those giant Tsubasa posters hanging all over my walls...
Mostly, I just love how detailed the characters in Tsubasa are. They have really interesting backstories which can sometimes kill my brain. If you start reading that manga thinking the plot is typical, find the sixteenth volume and prepare to realize that only one of the characters does not betray them. And it's not the one you would think. Ah, so brilliant...
*stares at the picture of Kurogane in the description of CLAMP* And also they have attractive male characters.
Atria35 (post: 1435895) wrote:
But if you were going to check out xxxHolic (and I suspect you would enjoy it), you really would have to read Tsubasa to get what exactly is going on- after Vol. 10 in xxxHolic and vol 16 in Tsubasa, you have to read them together because the stories cross over so very much. I tried reading them seperately and I was WTFreak is going on who are they and what the heck are they talking about? You just have to, to get the explanations for many of the things that go on.
Atria35 (post: 1435895) wrote:
lolz, yeah- The limbs were a little out-of-hand in the first few volumes. I wonder whether they were trying for a closer look to xxxHolic. It didn't work and they got back to being beautiful
Atria35 (post: 1435895) wrote:
Askua, I completely agree. Their characters are fabulous, and fabulously bishie.
Asuka Neko (post: 1435902) wrote:Well... I actually read Tsubasa without reading xxxHolic, just because Yuko's lack of clothes disturbs me... (she's a great character, and really funny, but she really should wear higher-cut shirts) and I understand it fine. It just took a lot of thinking. I would reccomend that people read them both if they want to understand it.
Lynna (post: 1435909) wrote:Sadly, the only CLAMP work I have read is Chobits, and as much as I loved the story, art, and characters, the content was WAY too mature for me.I want to try Card Captor Sakura, since it seems to be a lot more family-friendly
Oh! Okay. *thinks* yeah, I can see why you'd feel that way about it. I think that because I don't mind crossovers that much it didn't bother me, but it also might be because I haven't read as many of their works as I would like.blkmage (post: 1435912) wrote:Yes, I meant that thinking about the premise behind Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle makes me angry. Like, I'm okay with multiple stories taking place in the same world or universe, but the different CLAMP stories and settings are so different that they can just threw everything together and make a series out of it baffles me to the point of rage. I feel like it serves no purpose and cheapens each of the properties involved.
There was one episode of Kobato where a bunch of TRC characters showed up for no good reason, which made me so mad.
Atria35 (post: 1435843) wrote:Out there? Well, they are fantasy writers. Could you clarify? Also, their latest works seem to be more grounded. With xxxHolic and Tsubasa they haven't really gone over any new ground- I've read many sci-fi stories with similar premises. And I actually found xxxHolic and Tsubasa to be easier to understand
steenajack (post: 1435989) wrote:Wait, I must ask cause I'm reading Tsubasa Chronicles and I LOVE it: Do I REALLY need to read xxxholic to get everything? Or could I just watch the anime. It's not Yuko's outfits that bother me as much as some of the "sensual" images that pop up in that manga, especially in some of the chapter art. >.<! IDK, cause xxxholic would actually be something I'd read if it weren't for some of the er..."interesting" images. (At least when I was flipping through the pages of volume 1...the story actually looked very interesting. Dark, sure, but interesting.) So, does the content in the manga get any worse than say what I've seen in volume 1?
I wanted to. I was strongly for it... but I couldn't rationalize why I should put Rayearth in there. X, yes, RG Veda, yes, their most recent manga, definitely, but why Rayearth?TheSubtleDoctor (post: 1436032) wrote:Surprised that Rayearth wasn't mentioned in this post.
Heh, I feel the same way I just run with it- it looks nice.Aside from plotting issues, the thing that really got to me about Tsubasa was the way the action scenes were drawn. It was very difficult for me to tell just what exactly was going on.
I was under the impression that it is one of their seminal works and also massively, enduringly popular.Atria35 (post: 1436054) wrote:I wanted to. I was strongly for it... but I couldn't rationalize why I should put Rayearth in there. X, yes, RG Veda, yes, their most recent manga, definitely, but why Rayearth?
TheSubtleDoctor (post: 1436055) wrote:I was under the impression that it is one of their seminal works and also massively, enduringly popular.
Asuka Neko (post: 1436124) wrote:Well, you've got to take into account that CLAMP is known as a shoujo manga group, and shoujo isn't exactly known for its great fight scenes.
Asuka Neko (post: 1436124) wrote:Well, you've got to take into account that CLAMP is known as a shoujo manga group, and shoujo isn't exactly known for its great fight scenes.
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