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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:19 pm

Yeah, but if you stuff them in a suitcase, you can line it with lead and sneak them past airport security!

But...you'll have to stuff Kon in the pet carrier...or tie him to the top of the plane!
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:31 pm

Hm, I thought Mayuri's last trick was acceptable (that is, within the realm of my suspension of disbelief). I suspect that translation would make all the difference here. As I understand it, the drug creates a hyper sensory state in which the individual's mind is so overwhelmed by the information that they are immobilized. That kind of makes sense, which is really all I ask for mainstream shonen.
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Postby Mave » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:17 am

At least, it's original to me.
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:13 am

[font="Palatino Linotype"]Okay...Chappie 306 was...slightly disturbing.

What exactly did Mayuri do? o__O

Do I even WANT to know?...
>.> <.<

But now we see Zaraki and Nnoitora's fight.

Hopefully we'll get to more storyline.

(I wanna know what happens to Nel-Tu! I feel sorry for her.)

Hey, is it me, or do most of the females get beat and/or are weak?[/font]
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Postby MasterDias » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:03 am

I suspect this arc should wrap up soon. I've found I've run out of things to say for the most part.

Hey, is it me, or do most of the females get beat and/or are weak?

Orihime's the only female character I've ever really felt wasn't handled very well by the author as she doesn't get to do anything much in Soul Society, gets defeated after that, makes a vow to get stronger, and then gets promptly captured.

Most of the others seem about as strong as you would expect. Nel, Yoroichi, and Soi Fon are strong, and I don't think it's fair to compare vice-captains on down to "captain-class" fighters in most cases.

Kubo Tite has handled his female characters better than Kishimoto at any rate.
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Postby Doubleshadow » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:20 am

Yeah, the Mayuri thing. Disgusting and moving on...
I was glad to see the manga-ka didn't just jump into the next fight, and did some cleaning up and character building after; although it consisted of reinforcing the notion that Mayuri more loony than Canadian coinage. (before anyone gets after me, that's a pun)
I wonder how Ishida is coping with Mayuri an as ally?
As for Nemu, I wish she could be stronger, but maybe Mayuri designed her as shield, but not much stronger in the event she decided to rebel to ensure he could subdue her. Besides, if she were an effective design, the Soul Society might make so many copies it creates it's own problems.
I wonder, is Nemu's weakness a carefully worked characteristic designed to fit her neatly into the narrative, or is the manga-ka just lazy?
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Postby Bap » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:42 pm

Doubleshadow (post: 1193457) wrote:Besides, if she were an effective design, the Soul Society might make so many copies it creates it's own problems.


LOL. xD Nemu clone army?

They're everywhere! D:
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Postby uc pseudonym » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:53 pm

This arc should be resolving fairly soon. There's only one Captain fight left (and I'm willing to bet Zaraki will do better once he removes his eye patch) and having someone else show up at this point would be just ridiculous.

Hana Ryuuzaki wrote:Okay...Chappie 306 was...slightly disturbing.

What exactly did Mayuri do? o__O

This falls into the "It probably isn't worth spending any thought on it" category.

MasterDias wrote:Orihime's the only female character I've ever really felt wasn't handled very well by the author as she doesn't get to do anything much in Soul Society, gets defeated after that, makes a vow to get stronger, and then gets promptly captured.

Most of the others seem about as strong as you would expect. Nel, Yoroichi, and Soi Fon are strong, and I don't think it's fair to compare vice-captains on down to "captain-class" fighters in most cases.

I agree on this. The female characters aren't shoved to the side by Ichigo much more than the male ones (excepting the captured female class). Nel did get robbed of her fight, however.

Doubleshadow wrote:I wonder how Ishida is coping with Mayuri an as ally?

They're kind of working together, given that Mayuri uses Ishida to acquire information and bothered to act as reinforcement. The question is if Ishida wants Mayuri to have anything to do with him.
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:20 pm

[font="Palatino Linotype"]Wow...
Well, the character polls first.

Hitsugaya won. Any surprise? =__=

I wasn't expecting Grimmjow to be #4 while Ulquiorra was #10, but where's Gin? Maliciously cute Gin?


Ehehehh....
For the people who haven't read the polls, the characters were as followed.


#1-- Hitsugaya Toushirou with 8,278 votes.
#2-- Kuchiki Rukia with 7,895 votes
#3-- Kurosaki Ichigo with 7,829 votes
#4-- Grimmjow Jeagerjagues with 4,987 votes
#5-- Ishida Uryuu with 4,710 votes
#6-- Hinamori Momo with 4,102 votes
#7-- Kuchiki Byakuya with 4,010 votes
#8-- Inoue Orihime with 3,975 votes
#9-- Kira Izuru with 3,852 votes
#10- Ulquiorra Schiffer with 3,751 votes
And... #40--Kon with 135 votes.

Totaling...53,389 votes for characters in the Top Ten!


Now, for the actual chapter.
*ahem*
The fight between Zaraki and Nnoitora was...violent to say the least.

Getting stabbed in the EYE?!

And how does he (Nnoitora) live when his brain was stabby-stabbed? O__o
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Postby Doubleshadow » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:17 am

You forgot Kon! Kon was 40th, with his ranking in the style of a 'kick me' sign no less. That prompted a bark of laughter from me.

Poor Ishida. I hesitantly wonder if he will look any different next time we see him.

It looks like Psycho-grin and Zaraki will be whaling on each other a bit longer. Zaraki hasn't even removed his eye-patch yet.
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Postby Bap » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:14 am

I wonder if there's gonna be any 'omgsurprise' involving Zaraki and sword releases. D;
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:16 am

[font="Palatino Linotype"]Oh, yes. Then it will be D.o.D.D.D. for Nnoitora. And we shall raise up our voices in cheering. Yay.

(P.S. I edited my previous post to include Kon.)[/font]
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:09 pm

Hana Ryuuzaki wrote:Hitsugaya won. Any surprise? =__=

It's sad, really.

What I wonder is why Rukia is so popular. Really... why? She's done so little in the plot overall.

Hana Ryuuzaki wrote:Getting stabbed in the EYE?!

And how does he (Nnoitora) live when his brain was stabby-stabbed? O__o

Yeah, that strikes me as odd too. However... have we seen his hole? They seem to be around the heart, but it would be pretty clever to put an eye patch over it.

[quote="Bap"]I wonder if there's gonna be any 'omgsurprise' involving Zaraki and sword releases. D]
That is the big question, yes. If he gets a fight later in the series I might expect it then instead of now, but it could happen. All the more so if he doesn't have a permanent Shikai like Ichigo. Theoretically he'd be strong enoguh with just that, but I have a feeling Bleach is too shonen to have him not go Bankai.

...Noitora's eye patch better not do the same thing as Zaraki's.
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:42 pm

Doubleshadow wrote:Poor Ishida. I hesitantly wonder if he will look any different next time we see him.


[font="Palatino Linotype"]He's gonna be BALD! ...Or be glasses-less. *pushes glasses up*
Darn glasses...

uc pseudonym wrote:
...Noitora's eye patch better not do the same thing as Zaraki's.


Yes, cause that would be self-plagiarism.

uc pseudonym wrote:What I wonder is why Rukia is so popular. Really... why? She's done so little in the plot overall.


Well, I guess... I dunno. Maybe it's because she is so feisty? And short? And rabbit-loving?
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Postby mechana2015 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:35 pm

uc pseudonym (post: 1195154) wrote:
...Noitora's eye patch better not do the same thing as Zaraki's.


I think that will probably be his soul chain hole, since noitara seems pretty confidant about not getting cut, even after being hit.
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Postby Bap » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:21 pm

xD Haha, too shonen.

I think people like Rukia 'cause they're IchiRuki shippers. :U
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:35 pm

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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:01 pm

It looks like things are developing according to expectations, from this week's chapter. Odd that we still haven't seen Noitora's true form, though.

Hana Ryuuzaki wrote:Well, I guess... I dunno. Maybe it's because she is so feisty? And short? And rabbit-loving?
T__T

Fair enough. She may be mostly a plot device, but at least she's a plot device with character (ie the rabbits). In retrospect, what should have made me wonder more is how Kira is #9... seriously, he barely matters.
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Postby Bap » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:15 pm

Naw, I'm just an IchiHime fan myself. D; Sorry, wasn't trying to offend or anything. xD
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Postby Mave » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:27 pm

LOL Absolutely not surprised. This is a popularity poll, which most of the time, doesn't lend itself to logic.

Without thinking too much, I probably would have voted:

#1) Ichigo
#2) Nell
#3) Rukia

I'm a RukiaxIchi shipper so #3 isn't supposed to make much sense. But then again, I also don't understand why Hitsugaya is so high on top.

Feel free to cast in your votes just to see how it'll differ from that poll.
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Postby Bap » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:20 pm

There're a lotta characters I like... ;~; So I wouldn't be able to place any in an actual one, two, three order, but... D: It'd prolly all be for my fan-ness and not because they have any actual importance to the plot at the moment. u_u;7

Kyouraku and Nanao for two. D; Yay for unloved squads! :D
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:10 am

[font="Palatino Linotype"]Well, I would vote...

#1--[color="Silver"]Ichimaru Gin[/color]
#2--[color="DarkGreen"]Schiffer Ulquiorra[/color]
#3--[color="SeaGreen"]Urahara Kisuke[/color]
#4--[color="Pink"]Matsumoto Rangiku[/color]
#5--[color="Magenta"]Kujisaji Yachiru[/color]

So...yeah.
I went with my top 5...

uc pseudonym wrote:In retrospect, what should have made me wonder more is how Kira is #9... seriously, he barely matters.


That's quite true.
AND WHERE IS GIN?!?!
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This is quite fun. Shall we tally up our votes once everyone's voted and have the CAA Bleach Popularity Poll?[/font]
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:24 pm

Do you get multiple votes? In any case, my favorite Bleach characters in order:
1) Aizen
2) Yoruichi
3) Urahara

Hana Ryuuzaki wrote:This is quite fun. Shall we tally up our votes once everyone's voted and have the CAA Bleach Popularity Poll?

If you want to take the initiative, go for it. But with the number of people discussing we have here, I suspect we'd have a lot of ties.
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:31 pm

[font="Palatino Linotype"]Then I shall be initiative.

Ehh, I dunno. It's something fun to do, I guess. Aizen is hilarious to me. I never really knew why...Hmm. Morbid sense of humor, anyone?[/font]
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Postby Doubleshadow » Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:20 pm

For me, off the top of my head:

1) Ichigo
2) Ishida
3) Tatsuki
4) Chad
5) Unohana

Well, this chapter was rather predictable. Zaraki looked particularly manic though.
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Postby Mave » Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:58 pm

OK fine, let's make this a top 5 poll XD

#1) Ichigo
#2) Nell
#3) Rukia
#4) Urahara
#5) Ulquiorra
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:31 pm

[font="Palatino Linotype"]Well, Ichigo seems to be #1 so far, and Urahara and Ulquiorra are tied for second...
*turns around* Sorry Gin...

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Postby uc pseudonym » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:46 pm

I thought it was clear enough. Meanwhile, I suppose I need to make my list a top five. The difference between #3 and #4, however, is the same as the difference between Espada seems to be...

4) Ishida
5) Tatsuki

Doubleshadow wrote:Well, this chapter was rather predictable. Zaraki looked particularly manic though.

If Noitora actually died without showing his released form, I'd be rather impressed. Most likely this won't happen, though, so we can expect his released form to be about on par with Zaraki sans eyepatch. Alternately, perhaps we'll get a revelation concerning his shikai/bankai.
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Postby Hana Ryuuzaki » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:43 pm

[font="Palatino Linotype"]No! Not Kenpachi! He can't be taken out so easily...he doesn't even have his eyepatch on!

Argh!

So, who's gonna take out the Resureccion Nnoitora?...
Watch it be Yachiru! O__o?

I dunno. Random thought. Nevermind.

Now Nnoitora's like a BUG!

It's a Praying Mannitora! XD *is shot*
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:49 pm

Hana Ryuuzaki wrote:No! Not Kenpachi! He can't be taken out so easily...he doesn't even have his eyepatch on!

I agree. Remember last chapter ending with Noitora getting slashed in a way that looked fatal? If Kenpachi is really down I'll be surprised - most likely he's going to reveal a sword release or he'll get up through sheer insanity. He doesn't seem to mind getting cut too badly.

Still, the rule about exponential Espada power seems to be holding. Ichigo wouldn't have stood a chance against Noitora's released form. I wonder what Ulquiorra's will be.
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