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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:05 am

I made a Ubuntu Live CD and from that installed it to the HDD. It made a partition so I can dual boot Windows. To make sure everything was working ok... I was in Ubuntu, restarted and booted into XP, then wanted to go back to Ubuntu.

Then I got this: Image
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Postby Kenshin17 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:14 am

Will it boot at all? Or does it panic no matter what?
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:09 pm

Nope. I think I gotta know a thing or two about Linux to fix this...
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Postby Kenshin17 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:18 pm

Google the error and see what you get.
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Postby Kenshin17 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:18 pm

Wow, that one is beyond my Linux experience....it looks like it might be pointing to the wrong partition.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:23 pm

It didn't the first time...

Well, this sucks.
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Postby Warrior4Christ » Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:01 pm

Are you even able to boot far enough to edit the mentioned file?

Does it have a OS selector menu thing on startup?
Everywhere like such as, and MOES.

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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:03 pm

I do have the OS selector.
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Postby Kenshin17 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:35 pm

Hm, maybe try and do some research on editing that file. That seems to be what it needs.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:26 pm

How do I edit that file anyways? XD

Could it have to do with the fact that it updated?
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Postby Kenshin17 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:32 pm

Might, and I do not know how to edit it. You'll have to Google search to find out how ;)
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:42 pm

Gosh... I don't even know where to start XD I don't even know what a kernel even is yet! XD
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Postby Kenshin17 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:59 pm

Kernel is the core of the OS, where everything happens. Just google [filename] edit
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Postby Warrior4Christ » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:08 pm

Would reinstalling it help?
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Postby Icarus » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:23 pm

I'm assuming you did a pretty basic default installation of ubuntu.


You'll need to reboot into the LiveCD and then mount your hard drive somewhere. For that, you'll need to find out what partition the / is at. Probable choices are /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1, depending on if your computer uses IDE or SCSI connectors. Anyway, open a terminal and type
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ls /dev/sda
and hit tab a couple of times to see what pops up. Odds are, / is either on the first or second partition (*da1 or *da2).

Once you figure out where it is, (it doesn't hurt anything if you're wrong, so no worries) type:
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cd  # this is just to make sure you'll have permission to do the next step
mkdir <directoryname>
sudo mount /dev/<partition> <directoryname>
At that point, it should ask for the root passwd of the livecd, if it has one. (guess "root" if you need to). After that, if you used GRUB for the bootloader, the file you need to edit is

<directoryname>/boot/grub/menu.lst

You can open it with gedit, though you may need root permissions
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 <sudo> gedit

---OR---

gedit <path>/filename
Most likely what happened is that grub is looking for the root partition on the wrong one. If is, it's not that bad and all you'll need to do is increment/decrement one or two numbers. Second best case is change a couple of file names in menu.lst so the reflect what's actually on your system.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:23 am

Yeah, I didn't select any special options or anything. It basically installed for me. Thanks Icarus. I'll see if I can do that.

I don't know if my HDD is IDE or SCSI but it is a laptop HHD if that matters.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:04 am

Icarus wrote:I'm assuming you did a pretty basic default installation of ubuntu.


You'll need to reboot into the LiveCD and then mount your hard drive somewhere. For that, you'll need to find out what partition the / is at. Probable choices are /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1, depending on if your computer uses IDE or SCSI connectors. Anyway, open a terminal and type
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ls /dev/sda
and hit tab a couple of times to see what pops up. Odds are, / is either on the first or second partition (*da1 or *da2).

Once you figure out where it is, (it doesn't hurt anything if you're wrong, so no worries) type:
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cd  # this is just to make sure you'll have permission to do the next step
mkdir <directoryname>
sudo mount /dev/<partition> <directoryname>
At that point, it should ask for the root passwd of the livecd, if it has one. (guess "root" if you need to). After that, if you used GRUB for the bootloader, the file you need to edit is

<directoryname>/boot/grub/menu.lst

You can open it with gedit, though you may need root permissions
Code: Select all
 <sudo> gedit

---OR---

gedit <path>/filename
Most likely what happened is that grub is looking for the root partition on the wrong one. If is, it's not that bad and all you'll need to do is increment/decrement one or two numbers. Second best case is change a couple of file names in menu.lst so the reflect what's actually on your system.


When I input-
ls /dev/sda

I get-
/dev/sda

And I'm not sure what the replace the <" "> in the code with either.

EDIT: Ok, I tried a little bit...

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ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/sda
/dev/sda
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/sda
sda   sda1  sda3  sda5  sda6 
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/sda
/dev/sda
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cd #
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mkdir /media/disk-1
mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/disk-1': File exists
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mkdir /dev/sda3
mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/sda3': File exists
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3 media/disk-1
mount: mount point media/disk-1 does not exist
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/media/disk-1 /dev/sda3
mount: special device /dev/media/disk-1 does not exist
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/disk-1
mount: /dev/sda3 already mounted or /media/disk-1 busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is already mounted on /media/disk-1
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /dev/sda3/boot/grub/menu.lst
bash: /dev/sda3/boot/grub/menu.lst: Not a directory
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /media/disk-1/boot/grub/menu.lst
bash: /media/disk-1/boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/disk-1
mount: /dev/sda3 already mounted or /media/disk-1 busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is already mounted on /media/disk-1
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$



EDIT: Ok. Seems Ubuntu is on SDA3 (ext3) and it's unmounted... And I have no idea how to mount it XD
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Postby Kenshin17 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:13 am

You need to edit the file like he says, the drives seem to be already mounted.

Look at where he talks about gedit.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:35 am

That's... not helping me here either XD
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Postby Kenshin17 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:40 am

You can't use gedit? To edit the file those google posts said to edit?

All you need to do is tell the computer that the third partition containes what it needs. And number three is already mounted.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:46 am

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Postby Kenshin17 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:14 am

All you have to do is get to the configuation file that tells the kernel where stuff is and change it to indicate the right partition.

Least thats what I am gathering from the posts above. This hase been an enlightening discussion XD
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:06 am

Yeah... The terminology takes time to get used to XD
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Postby Kenshin17 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:20 am

Judging from what I have read, all you need to do, is access the configuration file, edit it to point to partition three, and then save the changes. Least thats what this all says to me.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:27 am

Yeah, that seems about it. I've just never done anything like this ever before XD
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Postby Kenshin17 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:33 am

Me neither. A geeks best friend is Google. Thats how I figure a lot of stuff out XD
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Postby Icarus » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:07 pm

Personally, I learned a lot about Linux by installing Gentoo.

Mostly, the stuff in <> is where the names you would use vary.

The cd is just to make sure that you were in the home directory and would have permissions to create a new directory. After you get /dev/sda3 mounted on some directory, you can edit the file with:
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cd <directory>
cd boot
cd grub
sudo gedit menu.lst
That way, you get a graphical editor, as opposed to something like emacs or vim.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:30 am

That sounds simple enough... I'm not sure what you're supposed to name directories and such...

I can't really gather how to mount and crap like that...
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:38 am

So, near as I can tell, SDA3 is mounted on /media/disk (23.5 gig volume partition) if I understand it all right.
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