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Postby true_noir_chloe » Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:10 pm

Noooooo... you've revealed my true identity. :lol:

[size=84][color=seagreen]YOU SEE


You see into the deepest part of me ---

beyond the fog I hide behind.

You cast your light upon the shadows

that stretch like cobwebs in my mind.

You ease the pain when I am hurting,

and morbid visions from my past

pierce into the realm of Reason

as though I danced on blades of glass.

You grant me strength when I have fallen

and, once again, I've lost my way.

You take my hand in Yours and lead me

into the promise of a brand new day.

You bring order to all my chaos,

yet set my well-laid plans awry.

You place me on a firm foundation ---

then give me wings so I can fly.

You sand away my roughened edges

and polish all the dullest parts

until I stand before Your presence...

a newly-sculpted work of art.

You see into the heart within me,

right through my motives and selfish will.

And yet, in spite of all You see

You say You love me even still.


~by D.M.~

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Postby Azier the Swordsman » Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:33 pm

It's not like the girls actually KISSED or anything, so I wouldn't really worry about it. The only real problem I saw was that Nancy COULD have been better dressed... but I did enjoy this anime. It had an interesting plot, and I can't wait for the TV series.
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Postby Archan » Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:55 am

*Laughs*

Wow, seems like even when I'm gone I still make quite the impact around here no?
Just to clarify, I am the one who wrote this Review, not Ashley, so anything negative about the review should not be directed to Ash, pure and simple.

Ash-
I'm soooooooo sorry if this little review caused you soo much burden. Many apologies. In fact, have a hug for good measure :hug:

As For Read Or Die itself...

He he he, I'm sorry, but I still can't believe people actually thought The Paper and Miss Deep were gay. I know it was the big issue and the cause for alot of dispute, but actually from all the people whom have reviewed it (And there were alot, trust me) it seems only this forum seems to have gotten that expression. Just something to point out. as for me, I just think it's silly. :lol:

Anyways, I don't mean to open old scabs, but I'd at the least like to give my own perfessonal interpretation of The Papers and Miss Deeps relationship, for the sake of the anime. For me it was a big sister relationship, pure and simple. Anything otherwise interpretated would have most likely have been due to the fact that there where two Miss Deeps, and the Evil one might have acted more agressivley towards the Paper giving off what was most likely mis-interpretated as sexual tension or something.

But yeah, it was a big sister relatioship. It's even more obvious when
Nancy gives Yamiko the whereabouts of her own little sister. Hence making Yamiko the new big sister to look over Nancy's own little sister.

In fact I can take it even deeper (forgive the pun)...Nancy most likely was drawn towards Yamiko because of the fact that she was aware that she had a little sister, but wasn't able to see her because of her...job. Hence, she be-friended Yamiko to perhaps fill that emotional gap and somewhat fulfill her own duties of being a big sister.

As for Yamiko, well, she's a book worm, very few friends, very gentle nature, and lives her life in books. Having a Big sister suddenly dropped on you probably took her a while to adjust. So she was naturally more affectionate because of A: Gentle Nature and B: Most likely Nancy was the first real life Flesh and blood friend she's had in quite a long while so she clung to her in the hopes of not loosing her.

And thats mostly it, hum, kinda hard for me to believe no one picked up on all the visual symbols.

Anways just to get out of that whole thing in general, I still can be quoted in saying....THIS ANIME ROCKED! Regardless of what everyone else thought, I luved it. Dispite a cheesy plot and so forth, I'm a big fan of the old Superhero Genre as well as the James Bond and super spy genre as well, and this anime just had all those feels mixed into it and a groovey concept to boot. So what if it's cheesy, of hookey, so is Star Wars, Voltron, and Speed Racer if you seriously think about it. I really think we need more cheesy hokey anime out there, especially anime that tribute the classic genres.
But really, it was because of the fact that I didn't really need to read (once again, forgive the pun) into it or point out each little tiny detail to make sure if it was plausible or not that I enjoyed it even more. I just sat back, ate some raisenettes, and was entertained. :grin:

I mean, come on...evil Beethoven, a syphany of doom, green glowing microwavable samurai, a sword made out of money! How can you not luv this stuff! Seriously, we all got to loosen up some. :dizzy:

And as for the downing America stuff, if you really pay attention, The American government was apart of the Organizarion (It was International after all), one of the main entrances was located at the Lincoln Monument for crying out loud! As for the presidential refrence, once again I thought too much was read into it. (I seriously have to stop those puns) Lets face it, not all of our Presidents have been great role models now have they?

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Postby madphilb » Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:12 am

Yeah, what Archan said! :D

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Postby true_noir_chloe » Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:47 am

I am in 100% agreement with you Archan. That's exactly how I felt toward the movie. Great review, btw. :thumb: I especially love the way it made me feel kind of like the James Bond genre too. ;)

[size=84][color=seagreen]YOU SEE


You see into the deepest part of me ---

beyond the fog I hide behind.

You cast your light upon the shadows

that stretch like cobwebs in my mind.

You ease the pain when I am hurting,

and morbid visions from my past

pierce into the realm of Reason

as though I danced on blades of glass.

You grant me strength when I have fallen

and, once again, I've lost my way.

You take my hand in Yours and lead me

into the promise of a brand new day.

You bring order to all my chaos,

yet set my well-laid plans awry.

You place me on a firm foundation ---

then give me wings so I can fly.

You sand away my roughened edges

and polish all the dullest parts

until I stand before Your presence...

a newly-sculpted work of art.

You see into the heart within me,

right through my motives and selfish will.

And yet, in spite of all You see

You say You love me even still.


~by D.M.~

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Postby *Hope* » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:25 pm

Hey Archan, can u do me a fave? I saw this anime in the store and i was wondering if there was anything bad in it. I thought it looked good but i wanted to make sure it wasn't bad. My parents like to make sure i don't watch anything bad so no demons or anything. Can you tell me anything you found wrong in the first disc? It would be mych appreciated. :thumb:
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:40 pm

waht does "just about no nudity" mean? anyway it seems like a cool anime, and i take that kids could watch it?
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Postby yog^sothoth » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:50 am

what do you mean by no demons or anything. really every anime has something bad from a christian perspective. This one is clean for the most part. But i mean, there are cloned humans, hating thy neighbors, and an unnatural power to control paper and phase through walls (powers reserved for god to be sure). so what do you mean?
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Postby Gypsy » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:41 am

Well, to answer the questions:

There is no nudity. One of the characters, Miss Deep/Nancy is almost always shown with a great deal of cleavage. There's some fan-service scattered about, but there is no nudity.

Demons ... (it's been a while so someone correct me if I'm wrong) there were no demons.

I guess I'd give it a 12+ to PG-13 rating if I had to. It's a little too intense for a PG rating at some points. I really don't remember a whole lot about it. Guess I should unpack it and watch it again sometime.

For those who have seen this anime (no speculation replies, please) what rating would you pin on it?
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Postby madphilb » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:10 am

No demons, but the last of the 3 parter has quite a bit of blood and some somewhat harsh images. I'd say the PG-13 rating would be about right though.

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Postby true_noir_chloe » Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:14 pm

I'd agree, this is definitely a PG-13 rating. But, there is no nudity except for the opening credits where there is a bit of a geisha-looking gal who obviously is not dressed, but they show her back.

If you've seen the opening credits and music of a Bond film it is similar in the nudity of those. In fact, it would be very similar in content to any Bond film - which are usually PG-13.

[size=84][color=seagreen]YOU SEE


You see into the deepest part of me ---

beyond the fog I hide behind.

You cast your light upon the shadows

that stretch like cobwebs in my mind.

You ease the pain when I am hurting,

and morbid visions from my past

pierce into the realm of Reason

as though I danced on blades of glass.

You grant me strength when I have fallen

and, once again, I've lost my way.

You take my hand in Yours and lead me

into the promise of a brand new day.

You bring order to all my chaos,

yet set my well-laid plans awry.

You place me on a firm foundation ---

then give me wings so I can fly.

You sand away my roughened edges

and polish all the dullest parts

until I stand before Your presence...

a newly-sculpted work of art.

You see into the heart within me,

right through my motives and selfish will.

And yet, in spite of all You see

You say You love me even still.


~by D.M.~

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Postby Gypsy » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:44 pm

true_noir_chloe wrote:I'd agree, this is definitely a PG-13 rating. But, there is no nudity except for the opening credits where there is a bit of a geisha-looking gal who obviously is not dressed, but they show her back.


Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Well, looks like the official stance is PG-13 then.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Fri Dec 05, 2003 3:08 pm

your spoiler is missing a piece cephas
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Postby *Hope* » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:24 pm

Imjust want to know what's in it so i cna judge if i should watch it or not. I'm pretty mature but there are certain things my parents don't want me (lots of nudity, demons) to watch so i want to obey there wishes. :)
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Postby Gypsy » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:43 pm

*Hope* wrote:Imjust want to know what's in it so i cna judge if i should watch it or not. I'm pretty mature but there are certain things my parents don't want me (lots of nudity, demons) to watch so i want to obey there wishes. :)


Well, in all honesty, this one might not sit with your parents very well. I'd suggest you show them the review written for it, let them know that other Christians thought it should be rated PG-13 to R, and then let them decide.
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Postby Twilly Spree » Sat Dec 06, 2003 7:37 am

Hmm the campus anime club is having a big showing of this...I belive I will have to check it out for myself see what's going on for myself.
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Postby Quiet Hood » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:09 pm

:: sigh :: Lost again.
"Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath." -James 1:19
Translation: Listen much; speak little; stay cool. :thumb:

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Postby Shia Kyosuka » Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:56 pm

That's been clarified already. Let's not bring that up again.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:32 pm

The latest issue of Anime Insider as a feature on the complete Read Or Die Universe,including the Read Or Die OVA and the ROD The Tv series.Also it covers all the manga and novels.
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Postby Gypsy » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:19 pm

DelugeOfRoses wrote:You people are just too dumb to realize that two women can have close relationships and not be lesbians.

Just for future reference, that's probably not the best way to get a point across around here. I'd appreciate it if you'd resort to using more mature methods of sharing your thoughts in the future, leaving out the rudeness.

I have a R.O.D. review half written, so we'll have an official one in the database very soon. Hopefully, it will help put a cap on further debates.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:19 pm

I think while you're at it you should also review R.O.D.The Tv if you haven't done so yet since it's the sequel to Read Or Die.
From watching both,only seen up to ep.19 or 20 so far as that is as far as AU has taken it to date,it appears that Wendy has a bit of a crush on Joker.
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Postby CDLviking » Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:44 pm

I'm working on the R.O.D. The TV review. The series won't be finished until June, so don't hold your breath.
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Postby Kisa » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:38 pm

Nice review Ash! I have been curious about this one for awhile after reading some scans of the manga online... ^^ Definitley will check it out ^^
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Postby mitsuki lover » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:43 pm

There are 26 episodes altogether.(According to the article in Anime Insider).
Yomiko appears in the final 11 episodes 15-26.
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Postby CDLviking » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:17 pm

That might be considered a spoiler.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Sun May 08, 2005 12:53 pm

It might then again I found it in the issue of Anime Insider I bought.They
had an entire article on the different aspects of the Read or Die universe. :thumb:
Btw:Off topic but when is Gungrave going to reair on AU?
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