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CAA: Christian Anime Alliance • Free-Will Versus Determination.
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Free-Will Versus Determination.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:00 pm
by Kura Ookami
This is something i've been thinking about recently. Do we have free-will or are our actions determined by God or fate or karma or some other power?

Let's have a look at what they both mean

Free Will

Independence
Self-determination
Choice
Control over events
Furute is open

Determination

Dependence on an outsaide will
Self determined by fate
No control over events
Choices made for you
Future is closed

All the things I've listed under free will seem positive while the ones under determination seem negative. We all want to have endless possibilities and to have our own choices about what to do and when. We all want to be independant. We all want to be free. If determination is true, then your choices are all made for you, everything has been written in a plan before you were born and the future cannot be open. Emotionally, at least, free will is the clear winner.
Do we need to delve further into the question? In some ways we don't. If there is an invisible puppeteer, we might call him fate, or karma or God.then the strings he's pulling are also invisible.
However, as humans we want to answer the question and be certain that we're totally free, not just pawns who think we're kings. And that's why we ask the question and seek the answer.

Free Will or Determination? What do you think?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:07 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
I recommend uh... not debating XD

Kinda against the rules.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:26 pm
by K. Ayato
Same here. I'll be glad to discuss my views on IM.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:48 pm
by Kura Ookami
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:I recommend uh... not debating XD

Kinda against the rules.


You're right. How stupid of me.

How about people post to say they want to dicuss it via pm or im and then I'll pm them or they could pm me for the same reason?

[Quote=K.Ayato]Same here. I'll be glad to discuss my views on IM.[/Quote]

Sure, I'll im you when i've got time to talk. :)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:46 am
by Ashley
Yeah, seeing as this is pretty much a theological land mine, I'm going to go ahead and shut it down.

Kudos to all of you who called the shots right. ;)