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Alice 19th

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:39 pm
by Kisa
Has anyone read this? I saw a bit of it at the store and it looked pretty good. It is by the same lady (Yu Watase) who did Fushigi Yugi so thats what grabbed me (love FY). Does it have anything bad in it? What exactly is it about? How long of a series?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:10 pm
by Mangafanatic
BelldandyMewMew wrote:Has anyone read this? I saw a bit of it at the store and it looked pretty good. It is by the same lady (Yu Watase) who did Fushigi Yugi so thats what grabbed me (love FY). Does it have anything bad in it? What exactly is it about? How long of a series?

I just read your Gatekeeper's post and you and me must be on the same Manga frequency. I've read the first tow volumes of Alice the 19th. I was really surprised by how clean it was.

As far as sensuality: At the beginning of volume one, Mayura (I think that's her name-- she's Alice's big sister) comes out of her room in her underwear and a button up shirt. It seems she only decided to button a couple buttons so, if my memory serves me, you can see some clevage.

Also, at one point Alice and Kyou walk into his guardian's restaurant and they make a statement along the lines of "you aren't doing the dirty are you?" Just so you know, they most certainly are not, and they are both embaraced by the assumption.

In the second volume (the first to things were in volume one), a character named Frey is introduced and (I'm trying not to spoil anything) Alice says something like "He has wandering hands". We don't see any evidence of this but he is rather ambitious in his relationship towards Alice and makes alot of unwanted romantic advances.

Also, Frey doesn't have anywhere to stay when he first enters the manga, so he temporarily stays with Kyou and his guardians. At one points, Kyou and Frey bump into eachother in the bath room (they're both wearing towels if I recall) and I think they sorta accidentally kiss. They are both totally grossed out by it. That was my major draw back concerning the series.


This is all I can really remember. Over all, the atmostphere is a little dark, but I think I like the overall message. It enforces the idea that men's hearts are evil, an idea which has been forgotten my our society. Unfortuneately, Viz won't release another volume until November or something, but I suggest this series none the less.

It's been about a month since I read these, but I think I remember most of the objectionable stuff (It was all pretty mild in my mind). I hope this review helps you, and if you have any other questions, ask away. :dizzy:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:19 pm
by Mangafanatic
Wow. . . I totally ignored most of what you asked in the post.

Alright, synopsis: Alice is a high school student who lives in the shadow of her older sister. On her way to school one day, Alice sees a little white rabbit dart out onto a road and stops right in the middle of on coming traffic. Alice darts out to save the bunny and--- Naturally a very attractive guy saves her.

The Bunny gets away from Alice but leaves her with a necklace. Alice puts on teh necklace and discovers that she is a Lotus Master-- a person gifted with abilities to use Lotis words, which are sorta like a certain kind of magic.

After a series of unfortuneate events, Alice's sister Maruya disappears and Alice must use her Lotis words to save her.

This is a VERY rough synopsis and I left out alot of stuff because I don't want to risk spoiling anything. I never read Mysterious Play, but this series is really intelligent and interesting. It's funny because it both denies and reinforces all the things which should happen in a shoujo manga.

I've done a little research and as far as I can tell there's something like 5 volumes. I'm pretty sure it was 5, and Viz will probably do the same.

There. I think that's it. . . :drool: My brain hurts.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:02 am
by HikariChan
its a great book!!! i read 1-2-3!!
ahh i dont have to explain thank goodness!!
i love FREY!!! lol you have to read them!!! its great!!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:34 pm
by Kisa
Sounds cool! I cant wait to read em now! Thanks mangafanatic! ^_^

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:18 pm
by Mangafanatic
HikariChan wrote:its a great book!!! i read 1-2-3!!
ahh i dont have to explain thank goodness!!
i love FREY!!! lol you have to read them!!! its great!!



THREE?!!! You read three? I didn't think there was a three! Do you live in the US? I need three; if you know where I can get it I'll-- umm-- say you're a nice person.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:19 pm
by Mangafanatic
You like Frey? Come one, Kyou-- Tall, dark, and handsome.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:59 pm
by Kisa
Is Kyou the guy she first meets who saves her? If it is, I agree he is definitley my fav! ^_^

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:19 pm
by Mangafanatic
Yes, that would be Kyou. He is gorgeous with a capitol G.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:05 pm
by Kisa
Oh yea! I read the first few pages in the store and I definitley agree! ^_^

BTW, I just realized you are a new member mangafanatic! Welcome to CAA! Pm me anytime you wanna talk bishies and manga! ^_^

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:14 am
by TwilightKissC3
I've read the first two and i thought they rocked!!!
:angel: Kyo is my fav character, he's an archer, :jump: YaY!!! :jump:
Yu Watase is one of my fav's i love her work, FY and ceres are soo awosme too!! :thumb:

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 10:56 am
by HikariChan
hey i dont mean to spoil the moment of book three but!!!!!!!!!
aHHHHHHH theres a kissing scene!!!!!

yea i'm in the U.S!!!!! and the book three is here!!! its really good and its not fair how the book ends!!!!
you have to read!!!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:32 pm
by Mangafanatic
Thanks for noticing. Alright, I'll PM you sometime, and you feel free to do the same if the impulse should seize you. ;)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:31 am
by Spirit_Wolf8356
I loved Alice 19th, but Twilight stole Kyo before I could even read it. :mutter: We have a policy about bishies, and we can't claim the same one, so it's a race to get the best bishie. She got Kyo before I could. Not fair. The archer! I mean, really! Hmph. *crosses arms* Well, Frei is kinda cool too. Ya never know. Maybe I'll get lucky and there'll be a hot villian guy.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:54 am
by HikariChan
nooooo!!!!! i love frey!!!!!!! ^_________^'

its a great book!! frey is on the forth book cover^________^'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:52 pm
by Ren_sama
BOOK #3 CAME OUT!? O_O When was that? *goes out to find it*

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 12:24 am
by HikariChan
no...its not out yet!!!^_____^' but i have seen the 3rd book cover and hes on it!!!
Frey's So Cute!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:13 pm
by blue elf
I just read the first 2 volumes of this manga last night and I love it so far! I might get the book store to order vol. 3, cause according to Amazon.com it was released in March. Also according to them vol. 4 is supposed to come out in May. I agree that Kyo is definitely very bishie, but I like Frey too!(he makes me laugh) ^_^ Does anyone know how many volumes there actually are in this series?
-BlueElf

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:30 pm
by Mangafanatic
blue elf wrote:I just read the first 2 volumes of this manga last night and I love it so far! I might get the book store to order vol. 3, cause according to Amazon.com it was released in March. Also according to them vol. 4 is supposed to come out in May. I agree that Kyo is definitely very bishie, but I like Frey too!(he makes me laugh) ^_^ Does anyone know how many volumes there actually are in this series?
-BlueElf



Wow, Blue elf, where were all us Alice the 19th addicts when you asked this question? From what I know and based on the cover scans I've seen-- there are 4. I have absolutely no idea they are planning on wrapping it up in 4 volumes (I've read upto three and I'm clueless how it's gonna be done in so little time)

And if Alice and Kyo don't get together-- I'm hunting Yuu Watase down with my paint ball gun!!!!!!! :grin:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:11 pm
by HikariChan
its worth geting the 3rd one!!!
oh from what i herd there are 8 volumes!!
^________^'

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:12 pm
by blue elf
I've got volume 3 now and they just had to end it like that....*glares at book* I was looking at some Alice 19th sites and I think I remember seeing that it was either 7 or 8 volumes. I also kinda got spoiled on some facts about Frey's past, but oh well. O_o I also spoiled myself on what happened for a few chaps. after vol. 3. Now, I guess I'll just wait till the English graphic novels come out and try not to read ahead anymore. Well, unless there's another particularly annoying cliffhanger....no, must...resist! ^^; I wish they'd release 'em faster though.*sighs*
-BlueElf

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:10 pm
by Mangafanatic
Yeah, I was just looking at an Alice sight and I saw a similar number of volumes. Seven, I thought. And I'm both relieved and bugged! Why won't VIZ POST A RELEASE SCHEDULE!!!! Tokyopop has a release schedule for the next nine months! Ahhh!!! Yeah, the ending for volume 3 was lousy, especially considering the title of the next volume-- unrequited(sp?) love? She'd better not. . . uh, unrequite, or I'll come to her house and spluck hairs out of her head.


How long have they put between volumes? Three, four months?! Makes me want to SCREAMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:36 pm
by neoassassin2078
I STILL have'ne gotten arouund to reading it. But I probally will sonn since i'm such a Yu Watase fan. However, I did'nt like ceres nearly as much as Fushigi Yugi, so i guess I don't automatically like everything by her.

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 7:57 pm
by Kisa
I love this series! I finally read 1 and it was great! I can't decide just yet, but Kyo is absolutley gorgeous and Frey seems like he will be as well! Although Kyo is hard to compete with being a tall dark handsome archer! ;)
I love Yu Watase's stuff! Fy is another fav of mine! ^_^
I can't wait until read the other Alice 19th books!

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 5:20 pm
by Destroyer2000
Mangafanatic wrote:It enforces the idea that men's hearts are evil, an idea which has been forgotten my our society.


Whoa, now. What's that about? :shady:

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 6:12 pm
by Mangafanatic
Mangafanatic:It enforces the idea that men's hearts are evil, an idea which has been forgotten my our society.
Destroyer2000:Whoa, now. What's that about?

Well,
The bible says that there's not a righteous man on earth, "not one". People are evil. I can elaborate more if need be. I was just saying that I liked the part in this series about Alice having to battle the evils of the heart. I believe there's a certain allegorical value in this manga, for we who are christians also battle against our sin (we have Jesus-- an advantage Alice didn't have, though.)

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 7:25 pm
by Destroyer2000
Oh, sorry, you meant people in general. I thought you meant MEN, as in guys. Sorry bout that! :smile:

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:11 pm
by Mangafanatic
Destroyer2000 wrote:Oh, sorry, you meant people in general. I thought you meant MEN, as in guys. Sorry bout that! :smile:

No problem. To think I was THAT close to acting like a feminist and didn't even know it. :shady:

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:57 pm
by Kisa
Lol, I knew what you meant! ^_^
I finally got and promptly finished the 2 and 3 volumes the other day! ARRRRG! Why did it have to end that way! Its so unfair! Hos will it get resolved??? I am so stressed for Alice I am getting sick, lol! O well, the 4th is supposed to be out this moth! YAY! *dances* btw, I absolutely LOVE Kyo! Frey is cute in his own way, but his ways are just to . . . forward, lol. Kyo is so protective and cute its wonderful! *sighs* ^_^

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:34 pm
by Mangafanatic
I know!!! I-- I-- I love him!!!!! I just don't know what Alice is gonna do. I mean, just turn around right after, er, what happened at the end of three, and say "Well, I'll see you tommorrow." She can't say what we all want her to say! Poor darling.

Oh, well, this is why we all read Shoujo manga, so we can yell and the main character and tell her how obvious the answer to her problem is, while we sit on our sofa and think how glad we are that we don't have to be her.