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TopazRaven (post: 1447955) wrote:There is much money to be made off this thread it seems.
I know I shouldn't worry about it, but this sort of thing really does scare me. Then again, I'm pretty much scared of everything. I'm a loony. By the way, I'm sorry something like that happened to you Okami! So glad Jesus helped you pull through that!
Warrior 4 Jesus (post: 1447889) wrote:It would be stupid (and non-biblical) to outright deny the existence of demons though.
Okami (post: 1448285) wrote:Nothing to be sorry about, it was my fault for not trusting in God and for essentially pushing Him away in the first place. What's to be learned is that it is very much like the prodigal son parable, once we learn our error and turn back, He will accept us back with open arms, helping to correct our wrongdoing.
My story is very much the idealistic "losing of faith" that the professors at my Bible college said we would go through, to the max. It's the breaking down of the faith we "grew up" with, that of which we've been taught by our parents, pastors, youth ministers, etc. and learning for ourselves what it means to follow Christ. I went through that session during Freshman Orientation pretty cocky and prideful because I 'taught myself the Bible' Ha! Little did I know I would get into intermediate Bible/Theology classes and learn that I knew nothing, or pretty close to next to nothing, especially considering the full Biblical story.
I'm extremely thankful that I realized my need for Jesus, and cried out and allowed Him to take control. It was pretty rough going for a while, and I thought seriously about being admitted to the hospital to get myself back on my feet, but that never happened. It was the end of May when I started making serious committment to change things, and it's been since August that things have seriously begun to make that change. Philippians 4:13 keeps me going, "I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength" - my strength is Christ's, and the only reason I have strength is because He has given it to me.
Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:
My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me.
Falx (post: 1448445) wrote:That's an amazing story, but I feel compelled to point something out to you, I hope you don't mind.
While I have no doubt that you were tormented greatly by these demons, you shouldn't believe that you were physically possessed. You said that these demons pushed aside the Spirit to enter into you, but the truth is that no demon can ever overpower the Spirit. The greek root for possession is δ]
I don't mind at all, in fact this is something I've discussed with one of my New Testament professors.
Without turning it into a huge debate/argument, I would like to point out that I never said that the demons overpowered the Spirit. It may have been implied when I said they pushed Him aside, but that was not what I meant. I know that all the while, God was still very much in control.
I did not save myself, but within that time of weakness I realized that something was wrong - it was when I woke up in the middle of the night with cuts on my arm that I knew I "wasn't myself" so to speak. This was when I cried out for Jesus to save me, because I knew whatever I was doing on my own was no longer working. (Medications and "busying" myself with school) Talking with friends after the fact, it was confirmed that I was more aggressive and angry and sad than my typical self during that timeframe, late November-early December.
I have found that every difficulty I have gone through has allowed me to better understand the ministry that I'm going in to. God has been very gracious in allowing me the ability to understand disorder and pain in ways my peers have expressed that they may never know. The trials have only made me stronger as I continue to struggle and overcome.
Anyways, if you'd like to discuss it further, feel free to PM me.TopazRaven (post: 1448393) wrote:You sound so brave and strong Okami. I don't know if I'd ever be able to do what you did should I ever fall into a similer situation, which I pray to God I wont. I'm a very paranoid person and demons seem to be my new focus. I always worry about the things that are out of my control. My previous fixation was death and still kind of is. I know I can't let these things bother me, I can't live my life in fear, always looking over my shoulder. Yet, I don't know how to make myself feel better either. Talking about it doesn't really seem to help and my family/friends are tired of hearing about it. Well, I have spoken about my fear of demons to them though because I know they'd think I was crazy. Perhaps I truly do need to seek a therpist then and maybe even accept some medication.
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Rusty Claymore wrote:And it wasn't due to mental illness that the man at genneserret(?) was naked, cut himself with stones, and could break chains with his bare hands.
W4J wrote:but it often is a person's fault that they open themselves to dark spiritual powers by messing around with such things or being preoccupied by them
Nate (post: 1449400) wrote:Wait, what? What you just said makes no sense in response to Scalpel's post.
Atria35 wrote:I think he means that if they're possessed, then it's because they've dabbled in or dwelled on dark things.
Which I'm not necessarily in agreement with.
Warrior 4 Jesus (post: 1449416) wrote:Atria, is right. I'm not sure how you interpreted that that way, Nate. I didn't mention mental disorders/illnesses at all and earlier in the thread I mentioned that not all cases of such a thing would be demonic (very few of them probably are).
I'm in agreement with K.Ayato. I meant messing with the evil side of the spiritual realm. A demon won't enter someone uninvited (that's not to say the person is always conscious of such a thing). Whereas demonic opression can be a variety of things - personal, living in a sinfull world and possibly generational curses.
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