Hardest bosses ever

[Felix]

I don't think it's the hardest boss I've ever faced, but the final boss of hell on Cave Story gave me quite some trouble. Him (and the level preceeding him) took me about 2 weeks to beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxuYL14C1EI

[SnoringFrog]

I've yet to be abel to beat Solidus in the Harrier on MGS2 Extreem difficulty. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of shooting Snake in the beginning, thinking I could dodge the return fire. I've yet to recover that health, unless I regained it and lost it again later. Either way, I'm at half health.

[ADXC]

I would have to say Sephiroth from KH and KH2. I never could beat him. Has anyone?

[uc pseudonym]

I don't think it's the hardest boss I've ever faced, but the final boss of hell on Cave Story gave me quite some trouble. Him (and the level preceeding him) took me about 2 weeks to beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxuYL14C1EI

I can't view the link right now (bad computer) but out of curiosity, is that video actually your gameplay? Though not insanely hard, Ballos is a great boss for being well-designed.

I would have to say Sephiroth from KH and KH2. I never could beat him. Has anyone?

Hm. What in particular is giving you trouble? If you're half-way decently levelled you shouldn't have a problem. Or is it the "Descend Heartless Angel" attack? That's just a matter of being able to get to him and hitting him fast enough (or you could prepare an Elixer and use it quickly). In KH1 just always keep your eyes on him, then Superglide the instant he starts the attack. For KH2 you'll have to level up your alternate forms to get their abilities, otherwise you can't reach him.

[Tommy]

I beat him in both games easily.

It's funny because I had a crap-load of trouble with Sephiroth-Safer in FFVII and most people say it's the other way around that that the KH Sephiroths are hard.

[ADXC]

@ UC pseudonym- Thanks for the advise. I'll it a try. But I mean its sorta hard leveling up all the way to your max. Even if I half-way decently leveled up it would be enough. It will take a little while leveling up. Plus I never really used drives that much. Shame on me. And now you'd probably say, "Well now your screwed. You stupid idiot why didn't you level up your drives?!" (And that was his fatal mistake, thanks to him Sora is now dead and buried in an unmarked grave.)

But I do think the theme music for Sephiroth was pretty cool. "Sephiroth, he's a one-winged angel!" *Sings in a high pitched choir-type voice*

And I don't like to use up elixers too much because they last you for a few minutes and then what do you got? Yeah sure you have your magic to cast curaga. But what if you want to use your limit attack? Huh what then? And thats when he comes right behind you and kills you. And then you see thoughs horrible words in red GAME OVER? Would you like to retry the game again? NO Why would I. After spending a full hour trying to beat him do you really think Id try again?

Ok enough of the ramblings and incase you could make out some of my sentences it was because I was talking to myself because Im mentally deranged.

[Felix]

I can't view the link right now (bad computer) but out of curiosity, is that video actually your gameplay? Though not insanely hard, Ballos is a great boss for being well-designed.

Unfortunately it's not my gameplay. I don't quite know how to record gameplay footage. It's very similar to the method I use to beat the boss, however. I should try to record it some time.
What truly amazes me are the people who can defeat Ballos with minimal health and weapons.

But yeah, I agree with you about Ballos' design. He's hard enough to make it really satisfying when you defeat him, but not so challenging that you have to rip your hair out over it. He's well-balanced in his evolution of form and attacks, too.

[uc pseudonym]

It's funny because I had a crap-load of trouble with Sephiroth-Safer in FFVII and most people say it's the other way around that that the KH Sephiroths are hard.

Interesting. Why? Then again, I'm a poor judge because I beat Ruby and Emerald before Sephiroth.

@ UC pseudonym- Thanks for the advise. I'll it a try. But I mean its sorta hard leveling up all the way to your max. Even if I half-way decently leveled up it would be enough. It will take a little while leveling up. Plus I never really used drives that much. Shame on me. And now you'd probably say, "Well now your screwed. You stupid idiot why didn't you level up your drives?!" (And that was his fatal mistake, thanks to him Sora is now dead and buried in an unmarked grave.)

Not at all. I didn't find the forms all that useful, so I only levelled them in order to get the abilities. My advice is to find a place where you can level them quickly instead of annoying yourself by trying to use them throughout. The windows in the old-fashioned Disney world are a great way to get Heartless kills (that's what I used, though the top of the mountain in the Lion King world is good too). You shouldn't have to spend more than 30 minutes with this.

And I don't like to use up elixers too much because they last you for a few minutes and then what do you got? Yeah sure you have your magic to cast curaga. But what if you want to use your limit attack? Huh what then? And thats when he comes right behind you and kills you. And then you see thoughs horrible words in red GAME OVER? Would you like to retry the game again? NO Why would I. After spending a full hour trying to beat him do you really think Id try again?

An hour? That's far too long, so there's a problem. It is likely one of the following:
1) Low Attack Power: What level are you? Do you have the Ultima Weapon?
2) Dodging: Is he hitting you with many of his attacks? Learning how to dodge means you barely take any damage, which means Curaga is all you'll need.
3) Descend Heartless Angel: Only use Elixers if he actually gets this attack off (in which case there's little else you can do, being at 1 HP and MP). The goal is to hit him before he casts it.

But yeah, I agree with you about Ballos' design. He's hard enough to make it really satisfying when you defeat him, but not so challenging that you have to rip your hair out over it. He's well-balanced in his evolution of form and attacks, too.

Right. What I like is how much skill it requires. An average person with the best equipment/health would probably die on the first form, but good players can go through the fight without taking damage.

[Felix]

Right. What I like is how much skill it requires. An average person with the best equipment/health would probably die on the first form, but good players can go through the fight without taking damage.

Exactly. The first time I fought him, I didn't even know what hit me, but now I can often get through him without using my life pot.

[ADXC]

@ uc pseudonym- So what level do you recommend going against Sephiroth. Im just not sure. And Im trying to form the Ultima weapon, but I need one more Orichalcum+(SP?). I don't know where that last one is. I have six, where's the seventh? I don't think dodging will be an issue, I can dodge somewhat well. But I hate it when you can't escape an attack when you actually try to avoid it. Well what say you?

[uc pseudonym]

Level: I can't remember my level, to be honest, but you don't need to be that high. Max all your forms and the process will probably get you enough experience.

Maxing Forms: You do know the world map trick, right? Just before you run out of transformation bars, use a save point to warp to the Gummi Ship, then return. You'll be back at max. Much better than wasting time getting drive orbs. For whatever form levels via drive orbs, I recommend Mulan's world and repeatedly destroying the carts.

Dodging: Is there any particular attack that's the problem?

Orichalcum+: In my mind there's nothing wrong with using the internet for things like this. But this time I'll help you by copy-pasting directly from a FAQ.

The locations of the seven Orichalcum+ses are:
Space Paranoids - Central Computer Mesa (chest)
Twilight Town - Sunset Terrace (as Sora) (chest)
The World That Never Was - The Brink of Despair (chest)
100 Acre Wood - Finish Starry Hill
Atlantica - Finish "A New Day is Dawning"
Olympus Coliseum - Beat Goddess of Fate Cup
Any Moogle Shop - Get at least one of EVERY other material

[ADXC]

Ok thanks for your help. But you know what I finally got the last Orichalcum+ just this afternoon. I looked at the lists and saw I didn't have at least one of every material. So I actually created the Ultima weapon. Now yesterday I tried against Sephiroth again. And I lied about fighting against him for a long time. I can't even last 20 seconds. I finally just got the final form. And in case your wondering my level is 69. Yeah its really low. At the moment Im trying to do the Paradox cups in the Hercules world. How high does your defense have to be when going up against Sephiroth anyway? Ive used like all the defense pluses that I have come about because his first attack really takes alot out of you and Im not able to dodge it. How many levels do your forms level up anyway? Is it necessary to level up all forms or just your final form?

[uc pseudonym]

I think it would be best for us to continue this discussion via PM so as not to drag this thread off topic. If anyone else has more general discussion of bosses feel free to post here, but if specific discussions grow longer it is probably best to move them elsewhere.

[Freezair]

Yakuza and Nightmare from Metroid Fusion.

Both live up to their names.

There's a trick where you can easily kill Yakuza by firing missles up right before the battle begins, but try fighting him without it and you are in for an utter nightmare. (As it were.) His attacks are incredibly difficult to dodge, especially since firing into his mouth--the only way to damage him--does not stop his attack as it would in many video games. You're still gonna get burned. But if you get hit by his grab attack, arrg! And it's SO hard to dodge! Even hiding in a corner in Morph Ball mode can't always protect you. And then you damage him enough, and he starts rocketing around the room like a madman. Ayah... It took my friend and I 3 hours and something like 50 attempts to finally beat this infernal arachnid. (On HIS file. Goodness only knows how long it took me to beat him that first time on my own...)

Nightmare is not as bad, but he's still difficult. His attacks are very hard to dodge, so you end up racking up the damage very easily. His first stage is pretty cakey, but once his "baseball" falls off and he starts getting "freezer burned," he becomes really, really evil.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

XD Yakuza is VERY easy. All you need to do is spam Ice Missles while running a lot (Especially when he hops around)

Nightmare was more annoying.