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Postby kirakira » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:08 pm

Ok, I need you guys to pray for me and some of the kids in my humanities class. See, we're studying the Enlightenment, and the book our teacher picked out for us to read is obscene and innapropriate. Just so you know, I go to an insanely small Christian school, so this has really, really bothered some people. After about half of the book, about a third of us told the teacher we were not going to read anymore, and were given an alternate assingment. Which is great, but almost all of us are angry that he picked such a gross book in the first place, and rebellion is festering among us.

I know this isn't a huge deal compared to a lot of the stuff that's happening in your lives, but please, if you could just send up a prayer for us, it would mean the world to me. Thanks, y'all! :thumb:
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Postby Swordguy » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:31 pm

i will pray for you. i think i would probably do the same thing in you postion.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:34 pm

hey all prayer counts! none is smaller. ask and you shall reseave. i'll pray.
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Postby Destroyer2000 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:38 pm

I'll pray. I understand your situation well. There's no need to worry about it being insignificant to us.
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Postby Technomancer » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:48 pm

What was the book?
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Postby Yojimbo » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:53 pm

Yeah I'd like to know what the book is as well.
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Postby Anna Mae » Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:36 am

I shall pray also. I am curious about the book as well.
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Postby agasfas » Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:15 am

I shall pray. But also, what was the book?
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Postby Mave » Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:48 am

hmm interesting...

At this point I wouldn't mind reading some "twisted" literature but I won't have dared to recommend to anyone unless they were spiritually ready for it. Sorry to hear this, glad to hear you and your class had the sense to stand up against it and yes, I shall pray for your class to discard any distrust or grudges you all hold against your teacher.
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Postby Rogie » Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:12 pm

God bless you for taking a stand, and I'll pray for everyone involved.
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Postby Kaligraphic » Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm

What swordguy, c.t.,girl, destroyer2000, Yojimbo, et al. said.

And,

Perhaps the book represented an aspect of the instructor's understanding of the enlightenment - it was, after all, a time filled with things we would now call obscene, inappropriate, and unfit for public use. While perhaps the instructor should have known better, as you haven't said the title of the book, I'd be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. He may also have heard that the book was commonly used in similar classes, and wanted to give you a modern education.

Alternately, if the book was really too objectionable, it might be beneficial to ask someone in the school administration (say, if you have someone you're supposed to go to for advice, ask them what you should do in the situation - I don't know the leanings of your school, but some christian schools have restrictions on the kinds of materials used for teaching. (from your age, it looks like this is junior high?) On the other hand... well, there are always too many other hands.


Oh, and Mave, have I got a twisted book for you...

It's called "The art of knot-tying and nautical rope-work" :)
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Postby true_noir_chloe » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:09 pm

I would actually agree with Kaligraphic, and I would also like to know which book it was.

I will be praying for you Kira, and I hope it all works out. ^______^ *hugs*

Hmm, you make me curious to go look up how the Enlightenment is covered in our curriculum (I home school - you knew that right?). *goes to peruse history books*

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Postby kirakira » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:59 pm

Thank you all so much! ^^ heh, a few days after they finished the book, the teacher formally apologized to us, and sent a letter home to our parents apologizing.

Kaligraphic~ It was a satire. The book was. The teacher explained to us that (a) it was a satire and should be treated as such, and (b) we should be mature enough to "handle it". I totally understand that It was written by a man who never claimed the name of Christ, and that it was satire, and can see where the teacher was coming from, but it made me horribly uncomfortable to be reading it. Perhaps it's just becuase I've been very sheltered all my life, but I would have been uncomfortable reading it alone, much less in the prescence of snickers teen-age guys. I mean, it made my mom uncomfortable reading it at home alone in her room. I actually have a big long rant about things like this that I inflict upon my friends every now-and-then, but I have to go to bed, so you'll escape this time. *lol*
Oh, and several parents went to the headmaster and discussed it with her. (*lol* and we're a 9th-12th grade humanities class. *I'm in 10th grade*)


Anyway, thank you all again for praying, I think we're all over it by now, and were all very pleased that he apologized to us. *glomps everyone* You guys are great!
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:14 pm

Seriously, what's so hard about giving us the title of the book!
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Postby Technomancer » Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:20 pm

This wouldn't be 'Gulliver's Travels' would it? It's one of the classics of the time, but I could see parts of it causing some trouble with certain crowds. Then again he was a churchman, so maybe not. Tom Jones perhaps? (I haven't read that one)
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Postby Anna Mae » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:08 am

I'm glad things worked out.
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Postby termyt » Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:14 am

Well, in a way, I'm glad your teacher chose this book (he says not knowing what the book was). Satire is supposed to be hard to take and make you uncomfortable. Discomfort is a good thing from time to time - especially in a learning environment - doubly so in a Christian learning environment, which would hopefully frame it in the right perspective.

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